Praise the Lord. This is a further message about Pastor Manning, and my response to him. The Lord has told me that the genesis of the name ATLAH is Atlas. It is really saying Atlas without being obvious.

Pastor Manning’s vision is a vision of ATLAH and when I first heard this, my understanding was that ATLAH was the new name of the geographical location called Harlem. I believed it was signifying the revitalization of this area, and it included with it the revitalization of the black community of that area and was to be made an example of what God can do in renewing people and renewing lives.

This name ATLAH is now been expanded into a concept of world dominion according to Pastor Manning’s preaching which we will listen to in future meetings  (because we only have an hour left today). He has extended this name ATLAH, and, from the way he describes it, it is the dominion of Christ Jesus on earth. He is referring to it as an international concept of a renewed earth under his leadership.  

I have two half-hour messages of his in which he actually uses the pronoun I (personally, I think it is a slip). He says that when he comes into his power, he will be the leader of this one-world government. Lord willing, we will analyze these messages later.

I believe the powers and principalities manifesting through him have increased in strength. I told you before we started running the tape that I was having some anxiety over preaching this message, but I was not sure why. As the tape started to roll, and after I drew the drawing on the board, the Lord told me that the anxiety that I am feeling is the anxiety of the other side. The battle has become really serious.

I have told you many times that when the Lord fights, the first thing that He does is He exposes the enemy, so we now know what we are up against.

I knew several months ago that Pastor Manning had a spirit guide, and then the Lord came to me several weeks ago and told me that it is more than one spirit, that there is a community of spirits living through him.

Today, I got this message for you at three o clock this morning. The Lord woke me up and gave me this message.  He said, ATLAH is really Atlas. 

Atlas is a character in Greek Mythology. He is one of the Titans, and he is always depicted as holding a globe on his shoulder. Atlas holds the world on his shoulders.

I have put on the board for you a part of the Scripture, Isaiah 9:6, but I would read the whole of verses 6 and 7 to you.

 

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.  7  Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. KJV

 

That means the Lord of hosts will bring this to past. The Lord of Hosts is the name that signifies the war-like characteristics of Jehovah. Jehovah has many characteristics. He nourishes and brings up children, and He is also the Righteous God of war. His name is the Lord of Hosts when He is fighting a war.

We see anti-Christ rising up continuously to replace Christ.        Let me remind you that anti-Christ does not mean, against Christ.  It means, in place of Christ.

We just got back from a ministry trip out of state, and anti-Christ manifested in a man. We read about this in the New Testament, where Elymas the sorcerer stands between the Apostle, and the deputy who was prepared to receive the message that would convert him.

 

Act 13:8  But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. KJV

 

Anti-Christ is in place of and stands between Christ and the people He is reaching for.

Atlas is usually shown with the world on his shoulder. You could look this up on the Internet or any reference book. However, we know that Christ Jesus is the one who would shoulder the world.  Atlas was ultimately turned into stone with the head of the Medusa, a female demon, whose hair consisted of living serpents.

Hair signifies spirit. Stone signifies the lowest spiritual decent into the most solid form. Mortal man has a stony heart according to the Scripture. Jehovah speaking in Ezekiel 36:26 refers to this.

 

Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. KJV

 

We see that Atlas incarnated and, today, is appearing as a mortal man. Atlas is the Greek name. There is nothing new under the sun. The Greek gods, the Roman gods, the Egyptian gods, the foundational characters of the Scripture are all the same, because our world has a spiritual foundational truth.

Different cultures have expressed that truth in different ways, most frequently mixed with error.  Truth is mixed with error.  Even in the Church we have truth mixed with error, because we cannot see into antiquity and find out what exactly happened.

The bottom line is that there was a creation made.  His name was Adam, and there was a fall. The fall was much more complicated than to say that Adam just fell. There were offspring of Adam that were evil. Each culture has its own mythology concerning what happened.

Most instances the mythology that comes out of the carnal mind has the roles reversed.  It has Jehovah as the evil one and the evil ones as the good one. That is one of the characteristics of spiritual philosophy that comes out of the carnal mind. That is why it is so dangerous for someone in their carnal mind to be learning spiritual philosophy, because the roles of good and evil are completely reversed.

It is just like the situation we see in humanity, where we could be up against an evil person who is trying to harm us, and it is obvious to any rational person that, that person is trying to harm us. However, in the mind of a demented person they are righteous, and the person who is the victim is the evil one.

There is nothing new under the sun.  Emotional problems, psychological problems and mental problems seen in humanity today existed in our forefathers. We are fallen adam, and we have fallen. The people today have fallen very far.

There was a time when fallen adam was much more powerful and much more intelligent than we are today. However, as the years went by, as the generations went by, the descendants of  fallen adam fell more and more.

Do not be deceived because we have all of these modern conveniences, and science, and all of these things. Spiritually, we are extremely fallen. Jesus said that we are in outer darkness, we exist in outer darkness. True spiritual life is in our innermost point, and we are living on the outside, very far away from the true source of life which is the center of our being.

I have known about Pastor Manning for only about five years, but I think that he has been preaching ATLAH for a lot longer than that.  I do not know how long. His testimony is that one day the Lord told him that He was giving a new name to Harlem, and that the name was ATLAH.

At the time, Pastor Manning did not know what ATLAH meant. Subsequent to that, his spirit guide (today I do not believe it was the Lord), told him that the letters that spell the word ATLAH mean all the land anointed holy.  

However, today, the Lord tells me that ATLAH means ATLAS, and that the spirit guide, and the community of spirit guides that are propelling Pastor Manning, are these very same spiritual beings that appeared in antiquity in Greek mythology under the name Atlas.

I do not think we are going to take the time to go into the whole story of who Atlas is, but I would like to show you his genealogy in relation to the Scripture.

Over the years (this goes back a few years), I have told those of you who have studied with me that there are powerful, ancient immortals who are incarnating again in this generation.

I also told you that the Hebrew prophets are incarnating again in this generation, because the final conflict over who will rule humanity will take place in this generation. This final conflict is taking place in our day.  Of course, we know that the Lord Jesus will win, but the enemy does not know that the Lord Jesus will win.

All of the heroes of the other side of yesteryear are incarnating, and we can see evidence of that in this country. In one of the southern states, Tennessee, they have rebuilt the Parthenon. They have built the exact replica of the original Parthenon that was in ancient Greece (Athens).

We see that the ancient gods are rising. All you have to do is look at the behavior of the society.  If you know what you are looking at, you can see it.

In my research of Atlas I came across a very brief statement that said Jupiter appeared as a shower of gold to a Greek Goddess called Danae.  A window opened and a shower of gold appeared. It started raining gold.

Today, we see ministers carrying what is called the gold dust anointing and there are actually Christians who believe that this gold dust anointing comes from God. The truth will set you free.  It is really important that we study history and other spiritual disciplines.

There was actual gold dust appearing, but where did it come from? It came out of an unclean spiritual realm that was manifesting in the room where the person with that anointing was preaching. What anointing did he have? He had to be manifesting the spirit of Jupiter, whatever that is, or some ungodly spirit.

There are people who attended these meetings who had the fillings in their teeth turn to gold. The gold was analyzed, and it was a fine quality gold. Gold is appearing in Christian meetings.  I want to tell you, and I have told you this before, Satan is laughing at the Church. The ignorance and the immaturity in the Church is a disgrace to the Name of our God.

This is what is happening.  Let me give you a little more back up. When Jehovah sent Moses to Pharaoh, the result of that conflict was not just that Israel escaped from Egypt, but the long term result was that Egyptian mystery religion was brought down and replaced by monotheism.  Of course, it is Islamic monotheism, but they went from worshiping many gods (and the dead in particular), to a monotheistic religion that is really based on the Old Testament.

Moses brought down the mystery religion of Egypt. Babylonian mystery religion was also crushed, and the people turned to Islam also. The mystery religion of Egypt was awesome. They built the pyramids; they had awesome spiritual power, but it was witchcraft power.

This is the final conflict. I call what is happing now the punch back, if you can hear this. Spiritual battles can transcend multiple generations. Jehovah, through Moses, brought down Egyptian mystery religion. Jesus, when He appeared on the face of the earth, brought down the mystery religion of Greece. Paul was sent to Greece and he brought down the mystery religion of Greece, Athena the worship of Diana, all of this paganism, and human sacrifice.

Moses brought down the mystery religion of Egypt. Paul and the apostles basically brought down the mystery religion that existed in Europe at the time. Christianity wiped out Wiccan religion in England. All of these were punches, if you can think of two people in a ring having a prize fight.

All of these events were punches by Jehovah, and now it is 2000 years since Jesus was resurrected, and the mystery religion of Greece was brought down, and the mystery religion of Ephesus (Diana was in Ephesus) was brought down. The apostles brought down the mystery religion in all of the sites that they went to. 

Now, two thousand years later, the gods and goddesses of antiquity are punching back. Remember, one day to God is like a thousand years to man.  These spiritual entities exist in higher spiritual planes. This is only the third day. They have gotten up off the floor of the ring, and they are punching back. They are incarnating in human beings. They are incarnating in human beings who know exactly what is going on.

I was behind a car yesterday that had bumper stickers on it that was obvious to me that it was promoting Wicca. Witchcraft is rising in the nation, and every form of abomination that was practiced by these religions is resurfacing.

As far as I know, we do not see child sacrifice yet, but that is because it is illegal in this country. However, it is possible that it is going on, with thousands of children missing every year and they are never found.

It is not just Satanism that is doing that. It is these pagan religions that practice the worship of these gods, Ashtoreth, Moloch. They receive human child sacrifices.

It is rising, it is like a cancer that begins on the inside of you, and you do not see it.  You do not know that it is happening, and you do not see it until all of a sudden you have a big eruption on the surface of your body.

Sometimes you do not even see that. I know of someone who was the receptionist at my chiropractor’s office. She was not feeling well.  She was not feeling well, but there was no sign of anything wrong. She went to the doctor, and he found out that she had late-stage cancer.  She died six months later.

There is a cancer rising up in this nation and within the individual people of the nation. There is an outright push to restore the old religion and paganism. That can only be done by the destruction of Christianity.  You cannot have both. Christianity will not live in peace with paganism. This is the reality of what is happening.

I was preaching this years ago, but today we actually see a man standing up who is the reincarnation of Atlas and his whole community. What does this mean? It means that he is the first one that has a public forum (that I know of, anyway), who is rising into full stature. This is the Resurrection of Damnation.  

John said that there would be two resurrections; there would be a Resurrection of Damnation and a Resurrection unto Life. I have been preaching this all of these years. 

The Resurrection of Damnation is the ascent of your carnal mind. The Resurrection unto Life is the ascent of Christ. I have been preaching that for years, but it is a whole different ball game to see it happen in a man. We are looking at the ascent in the man, of the principalities of old.

I do not think he is in full stature.  If I said that earlier, I have changed my mind because he does not have supernatural powers yet. He has grown in strength these past couple of weeks, and the Lord’s response to that is to expose him. That is the Lord’s response.

The battle is in the heavenlies. We no longer have physical battles as natural Israel did.  The battle is in the heavenlies. The beginning of it is exposure. I am not sure what comes next but my experience with the Lord is that He exposes the enemy, and this is usually followed by a confrontation, and the Lord wins.

I have seen this series of events happen with Christians. When there is a problem with Christians, the problem is exposed, and the people repent, and everything straightens out, although, we did have one conflict here where the person had to be put out of the ministry. The person was put out of the ministry, and the problem stopped.

However, I have never seen anything like this or had to deal with anything like this; some one standing in a public forum preaching with the most passionate preaching, gathering together unto himself so many black Christians who will be carried away by his preaching and teaching.

This is all new for me, but the battle is raging, and that was the anxiety I was feeling. The enemy knows they have been seen.

I am going to take some time today to show you Atlas’ genealogy in the Scripture.  Greek Mythology says that a series of battles were fought between two races of deities, the Titans and the Olympians, long before the existence of mankind. The Olympians, a second group of spiritual giants, rebelled against the Titans, who were the spiritual elders, and prevailed.

I want to suggest to you that the Olympians were the descendants of Abel that arose into the world. I am going to show you that in a Scripture. The drawing on the board says that the Titans are a race of god-like giants who were considered to be the personifications of the forces of nature. We have been preaching here for years that Satan is Mother Nature. Nature does arise out of the Serpent.

According to Greek mythology, Gaea and Uranus had twelve children, six sons and six daughters, and these 12 primeval deities, and their descendants such as Atlas are the Titans. Gaea is, according to the references I found on the Internet, the earth goddess and Uranus was the god of the Heaven and ruler of the universe.

Cronus, the youngest son, overthrew his father Uranus and (let me read this to you) released his fellow Titan siblings who had been locked away in Tartarus under Uranus’ tyrannical and selfish reign.

Cronus led the Titans and ruled the universe. He was later dethroned by his son, Zeus, who led his siblings in rebellion against the Titans.

In another place it says…The Olympians, led by Zeus, declared war against the previous generation of deities, the Titans. The Olympians won victory and then shut the defeated Titans within Tartarus, the deepest depths of the underworld.

Most of the Titans that fought against Zeus were punished by being banished to Tartarus.

To the best of my understanding, Tartarus is in the Scripture. As usual, I never have enough time to research to the extent that I would like because the Lord gave me this message at the last minute.

However, I know that the place, Tartarus, is in the New Testament. I believe that there are three Greek words that are all translated Hell. I believe that Tartarus is the place called purgatory, where you exist in torment.

Wait a minute, the Lord is reminding me that Tartarus is the holding tank where you are waiting for your judgment. That is what this world is.

Of course, in this world we have people in the three different dimensions of Hell. The people who would be in Tartarus would be the people who are just enjoying this existence (life is good for some people), and the judgment has not come to them yet.

As we mentioned earlier (it may have been off the tape), the Lord scourges every Son that He calls unto Himself. When the Lord says, It is your time to draw near to Me, He reveals sin in you, and the judgment falls, and you can prepare to have a relationship with the Holy God.

There are people in this world who are under judgment because they are coming closer to God. This is the purifying judgment, not the judgment unto destruction. The judgment unto destruction is the sowing and reaping judgment. The purifying judgment is the White Throne Judgment; it purifies us and equips us to draw near to God.

Then there are people who are just living this life, who are just waiting their turn, because the Lord is calling humanity unto Himself, each man in his own order. The majority of people are here.

We see these Greek gods were thrown into Tartarus. At the moment, I do not know what that means to us, but the message for today is that the descendants of Cain are rising in our society in the year 2006, in this generation. It is happening today. Satan always gets there first.

We are the Sons of God. Everybody here, and those that study with us, have the hope of rising into full stature. When we rise into full stature, yes, we will be healing the sick and delivering the oppressed, but we will also be at war with Cain’s descendants, because we are the descendants of Abel rising again.

Cain is still trying to kills us, brethren. Cain is still trying to kill us, and put us under her ground (actually, she is female).

According to Greek mythology, Uranus and Gaea had twelve children, six sons and six daughters. This is very significant. I will show you that in the Scripture. I will show you that these were the descendants of Cain.

Of course, after Cain killed Abel, we know that Adam knew his wife again, and the Lord gave her another seed which is Seth. Seth is the resurrected Abel, but that is not the message today.

This message is about the reincarnation of Cain and Cain’s descendants, and the battle of the ages. There is nothing new under the sun. Cain killed Abel, Jehovah rebuked him, and Jehovah in all of these thousands of years (whether you want to believe it is six thousand literal years, or you want to believe it is billions of years, that is not even concerning me right now), Jehovah is raising Abel from the dead. 

These are Ezekiel’s bones. Jehovah said to the prophet, Will these bones live again?  These are the bones of Adam’s dead body, and Abel is the root system of Adam. Jehovah is raising Abel from the dead, which is the root system of adam. Once Abel is raised from the dead, adam can be raised from the dead.

The Serpent and the Lord Jesus Christ are fighting over us. Who is going to possess mortal humanity? Who are we going to be? It is time for mortal humanity to be permanently formed. Will we be formed in the image of the Serpent permanently, with no chance of change or will we be formed in the image of the Lord Jesus Christ? It would truly be eternal torment forever and ever if we are formed in the image of the Serpent permanently.

We know the Lord Jesus is going to win, but everything He wins, He wins with a fight. These fights perfect us, these fights make us stronger, and these fights build our faith.

We do not look very strong compared to Pastor Manning, who is manifesting a very high degree of anti-Christ, and he is getting stronger every couple of weeks, but the type of this fight is David and Goliath. 

Like I said before we turned on the tape, I do not know how this is going to play out; there is a lot that I do not know. Will the powers and principalities catapult him onto the world stage?  It is a possibility.

The Lord has told us, at least for now, that the battle will not be fought in this world, not at this time. At this time, the battle is being fought in a high spiritual realm, and this message is exposing the powers and principalities manifesting through Pastor Manning to whoever the Lord would have them exposed to.

This is hard to believe, but as we preach this message and the words go forth into the spiritual plane, God could have, say, 100 people (just for a round number), out there that He wants to have this information, and it will just come to them as they pray, because no words fall to the ground.

Our words never fall to the ground; they just fly around in the spirit for all time. That is why we have to be careful about the evil words we say to people, because they become curses, and they just fly around. They become living things.

If we make a mistake, and we say some bad things to some people because we had a bad moment, in Christ Jesus we can break the curses, but the damage is done. We all have to live with the fact that we are all murderers. We are all murderers. We have the nature of the Serpent.

There can be 100 people out there, maybe people praying about Pastor Manning and what is going on, and they can hear what is going on here right now.

This very preaching is going out in the spirit, and if the Lord wills to open their ears, next week or next month, they can get this message.

They may not hear me preaching, although, if they are high enough in the spirit they can actually hear my words and recognize my voice.

When I am preaching, my thoughts are forming thought forms, and they are going forth. The people who, out of a pure heart, want to know what is going on with Pastor Manning will draw down unto themselves this information that is being preached today. That is one of the mysteries of the spirit.

Greek mythology says Gaea is the earth goddess and that she mated with her son to produce the Titans. I suggest to you that the earth goddess is the Serpent, who is the conscious earth, as taught by the Doctrine of Christ. The Serpent mated, not with her son, but with the Son, Adam, the Son of God, and she produced the next generation of spiritual beings.

Cain was born first and produced offspring (Genesis 4:17 through 22). I suggest to you that Cain’s descendants are the same as the Greek Titans.

I am suggesting to you that these Titans, as Greek mythology calls them, are the same beings as the descendants of Cain. We have all read so many times these Scriptures that say Cain produced offspring, but what we need to understand is that there has been devolution, not evolution.

We have not ascended from ape-like creatures, but we are the result of the descent from spiritually superior, gigantic beings. What has happened to us is not evolution, but devolution. We are not ascending, we are descending.

The beings that existed at the beginning of time were very powerful. That is how the pyramids were built in Egypt. These were the descendants of Ham, but Ham produced Nimrod and Cush, who were powerful in witchcraft.  They were not manifesting the power of God.

This is one of the major errors in what Pastor Manning is teaching here. He stands up there and says, My father Ham, my father Ham!  He says, We are being restored to the power of my father, Ham. Jehovah brought down the power of Ham at the Tower of Babel. It was witchcraft, and it would be witchcraft if it resurrects again.      

Try to understand that what I am telling you is that these powers and principalities preaching through Pastor Manning are preaching the resurrection of the witchcraft power that existed in ancient Egypt.

They are the same beings that were incarnated in Egypt when Egypt was at the height of the manifestation of witchcraft.  They are the same beings. Do you hear this? When he is standing up there, saying, My father Ham, my father Ham, he is literally speaking into existence the resurrection of these spiritual giants that appeared on the earth in antiquity.

The seeds of these giants are in human beings that exist today and, more than that, they are being seeded into the human beings that listen and believe Pastor Manning.

Jesus said, My words are Spirit and they are Life. His words are seed, and you are all seeded by the foolishness of preaching.  When you believe it, the seeds of resurrection land on your mind.

With Pastor Manning standing there with his intense emotions and passion saying over and over again, My father Ham, my father Ham, he is seeding the heart of the people that believe him, with the disembodied spirits of the giants that lived in the days of Ham. They are incarnating through the seeds that come out of Pastor Manning’s mouth.

If you cannot understand that, think about Jesus incarnating, think about Jesus rising in all of the people of the Body of Christ. That is your example. The Scripture says, Where ever the man is, there is the woman, where ever the woman is, there is the man and this is how it will be until this war is settled. 

      Wherever Christ is, there is anti-Christ. Wherever Abel is, there is Cain. Where Adam is, there is Leviathan. They are in there together until everyone comes under the dominion of the Lord Jesus Christ, once and for all, and He offers the creation up to the Father. That is the complete end of the physical world.  

We read about that in the Book of Corinthians.

 

1Corinthians 15:24  Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. KJV

 

We see the account of Cain’s descendants in the Scripture, in Genesis 4, Verses 16 through 26:

 

16. And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

18. And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.

19. And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

 20. And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. KJV

 

That is the generation in which the descendants of Cain incarnated in the flesh. He was the father of such as dwell in tents. These physical bodies are the skins or tents for spiritual life. He was also the father of such as have cattle, those that have the animal nature.

 

 21. And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

22. And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-cain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tuba-lcain was Naamah.

23. And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.

24. If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold. 

25. And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.  

26. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD. KJV

 

Seth is the resurrection of Abel. Although I am probably not going to pursue it in this series, I believe the descendants of Seth are the Olympians, the other beings that lived on the other side of the flood, who were also supernatural beings. They were the offspring of Seth, the resurrected or reincarnated Abel. All of these beings, both the descendants of Cain and the descendants of Abel, began in the spirit. 

They came into existence in a high place of the spirit, and as they descended, at some point, they appeared in the flesh. When they first appeared in the flesh, they were giants, giants living in the Egypt of antiquity. The magnitude of their enormous physical size was directly related to their massive spiritual strength. The fact that human beings are so small today compared to the giants of yesteryear, shows how spiritually powerless we are.

I have on the board Drawing #3, showing you on the left the names of the twelve Titans, six females and six males. On the right, I show you the descendants of Cain, six males and six females. I have to go over that again. Like I said, I really did not have time to work this up properly.  If I have to bring a correction on Part 2, I will do that.

To finish up the message I just want to briefly go over these Scriptures and show you some points in Genesis 4, Verse 16 through 26.  Basically, I want to go over Verse 23 and 24 with you.

 

23. And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. KJV

 

 

Next week, I hope to have for you the meanings of all of these names, because names always mean something in Scripture.

Lamech is telling his wives and his children that they are cursed, and he is telling them why. Voice and speech in hear my voice and hear my speech are two different words. Voice is what comes out of our mouths, and speech is the true intent of our heart. That is the difference between speech and voice.

Some people can communicate telepathically, and we hear the speech of the person’s heart. Sometimes the person’s voice says something different then the speech of their heart.

We should be able to communicate telepathically in Christ Jesus. As a Son of God, we do not judge by what people say. We judge by what is in their heart. 

It is a problem if the people do not know what is in their heart, or if the person does not know what is in their heart, it is a problem.           

In Verse 24, Lamech is talking to his offspring and his wife.

 

 24. If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold. KJV

 

That translation of If Cain shall be avenged sounds to me like he is being defended, but I do not think that is what it is saying.

Going back to Verse 23.

 

23. And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. KJV

 

This is a declaration, a confession. It is not repentance, it is confession. I have slain a man to my wounding and a young man to my hurt. What did Lamech do? He did not do anything, Cain did something.

Here we see the spiritual principal of not only the judgment being on our children unto the third and fourth generation, but for those of us that are mature enough to handle this, we really are being told that our children are just a reincarnation of ourselves.

When we were taught in Old Order deliverance that we have to break curses back ten generations, one hundred generations, the truth of that matter is that we are the same person in multiple incarnations. That is why Jehovah is righteously visiting the sins of the father unto the children.

If the children were brand new souls and completely innocent, would that not be a hard-hearted God who punishes innocent children for something that they never did?

The truth of the matter is, it is the same soul that is stretched out from generation to generation in our children, and that the human spirit (Jesus called it the worm that dieth not) is appearing and will appear over and over again, each time in a new personality, until the Lord Jesus puts an end to the abomination called reincarnation.

 

1 Peter 3:19-20:

 

19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. KJV

 

The Scripture does not say anything about hell, or after the resurrection. The Scripture says, Jesus preached to the spirits that were in prison because they were disobedient on the other side of the flood -- and we are those spirits!

Those of us that are spiritual today are the spirits who existed on the other side of the flood that were called back from incarnation in the earth because of disobedience. This means that they were abusing the privilege of incarnation.

Jesus came down into this world to preach to us.  He did not go to Hell, this is Hell. He came here! We are the sprits that were disobedient on the other side of the flood.

This message is not for the faint-hearted.  The truth is going to set us free, but it is not for the faint-hearted.

If our children are suffering, it is because they are the reincarnation of us! A part of us, our soul, reincarnates in our children while we are still in existence. Our spirit reincarnates after we die to this world.

I do not have the exact details on this, so please do not hold me to this. This is the best that I can tell you now. Our soul is given to our children, and then when we pass out of this world they are what is left of us. It is like the Serpent shedding its skin. We reproduce ourselves before we die, and then when we die, we continue to exist in this world in another form - -our children.

When the first group of Living Epistles first started to thin out, and it looked like it was shutting down, I asked the Lord what was happening and what was going on, and what would happen in the future. He said to me, You will rise again in another form. Then the second group came in. These believers here today are the third group.

The people that made up that initial Living Epistles group no longer exist, but Living Epistles Ministries still exists. The spiritual root of Living Epistles Ministries which is the Lord Jesus Christ, is just wearing a different garment today.

This is the third group, and you are different than the first group, but it is still Living Epistles Ministries, because our spiritual foundation is here. This is true about us as a people. 

I know I have told you this before, but I will repeat it again for this message. Jehovah did not create a creation that was intended to die. Jehovah does not want us to die, the Lord Jesus does not want us to die, and the Serpent does not want us to die. It is not the will of the Serpent that we die.

The whole problem is that the Serpent who has founded this formation with the Holy Substance, cannot keep us alive. When Adam was first created, he was joined in unison to Jehovah, so He had an unending source of energy that kept Him alive.

When Adam sinned and was separated from Jehovah, the creation fell into a sack which is this universe. The scientists will tell you this whole universe is just a sack. We exist inside of it.  Actually, it is a fetal sack, and we are in utero. The Creation is in utero, but that is another message.

We fell into this sack, and the umbilical cord to the Father was cut off. All that we have is the energy that is in the universe. We are not connected to an external source of energy. Therefore what we have in the universe has to be recycled. We do not have enough energy to exist eternally, so we die and we are recycled.

The body deteriorates, and the soul deteriorates, because there is not enough energy to keep them alive. That is not the will of God, and it is not the will of the Serpent.

That part of us which is immortal, our spirit, migrates from generation to generation because our skin dies. Jesus says, You have a worm that dieth not.

When Jehovah found Adam after the transgression, the Scripture says, Adam and his wife were naked. They were naked, so Jehovah made them skins. We are the skins. Jehovah is so high, and the creation was so high at that time, that we are skins that have consciousness and have existence. The skins alone die, but that part of us which is eternal, which is the true creation of God, goes on from skin to skin.

 

 Job 2:4 And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. KJV

 

Did you know that the skin of our body is renewed every seven years? If you had a way to test it by putting it under a microscope, you would see that you have completely new skin every seven years.

The Serpent sheds its skin, and the eagle sheds its feathers. The spiritual Serpent which we are the offspring of, sheds us, sheds the skins, sheds the personalities and sheds the physical bodies of this mankind.

We are the skins. We are what the Lord wants to save. The Lord wants to save our soul which is being destroyed from generation to generation because there is not enough energy in this sack to keep it alive. It is our soul that is being saved.

It is taking so long for the Lord to deliver us from Hell because we keep dying before the process is over, and have to be born again as babies, and have to start learning all over again.

We see that Lamech is confessing the sins of his ancestor, Cain, but he is confessing it as his own sin. This is because he knows that he is Cain, just as we are fallen adam.

We are adam that sinned and died.  That is who we are. This is why we have all the problems we have. We are reaping what adam sowed, and it is fair, and it is just. Jehovah is righteous.

This is grow up time. Do you have a terrible life? What did you do? I do not know. I do not know what I did that I was dying at ten years old, but it must have been pretty bad to be dying at ten years old.

Personally, I think that I was very high spiritually, and I must have been manifesting witchcraft or idolatry.  Maybe I was an idol worshiper. I do not know. I had to do something to justify death of a ten year old in this life, in this existence (it is not really life).  

Lamech is confessing to his wives that he slew a man to his wounding and a young man to his hurt.  What does that mean? The root of the Hebrew word translated slain, means to split.  We see here the evidence; Cain killed Abel, and they split. Cain and Abel are not supposed to be separated. They are symbiotic twins.

Sometimes we have someone who is born as a twin, and they carry the soul of that twin sibling with them, or sometimes they carry genetic material of that twin with them. That is the example of Cain. He was split from Abel but carried something of Abel with him that was convicting him. They were supposed to be two, but they were just one.

Cain slew a man to his wounding and a young man to his hurt.  The wound that Cain received was the wound that killed him. He though he was so smart. I am not going to get into why Cain killed Abel right now. He thought he was going to get away with killing his brother, and he died also, because they are symbiotic twins.

You cannot kill Abel and live, because Abel was (at least before his death), the mediator between Cain and Jehovah. It is the same thing as saying you cannot kill Christ Jesus and live.

Pastor Manning is killing Christ Jesus; he is completely denying Christ Jesus and lifting up his father, Ham. He names the Name of the Lord Jesus but you can say Jesus all day and all night, it does not mean anything if His Son is not in you. If you are worshiping Ham and giving all the glory to Ham, it does not matter that you say, Jesus is God. Those are just words.

Cain and all of his descendants died because they killed Abel. Cain killed the mediator, the connecting factor between themselves, and immortality and all provision.

That is what is so serious about an anti-Christ spirit that denies Christ Jesus, that denies Christ in you, that denies Christ in the flesh. That message is killing the only source of connection to the eternal source of Life.

What is Pastor Manning doing? He is seeding his people with the spiritual descendants of Cain (Cainites). He is seeding these people with the spiritual child that is cut off from Jehovah, and there is no life in that.  There is only death in that.

Lamech said, I have slain a man to my wounding, and that Hebrew word translated man means a mortal man. He did not kill Adam; he killed Abel who was mortal. He also killed a young man to his hurt. That is very interesting, because that term young man usually means Christ.

Christ in you is the young man in you. Personality-wise, we are all female, and the young man in you is Christ. The Hebrew word translated young man means fruit, and we know that Christ is the fruit.

He says he killed Abel, his connection to the immortality of Jehovah, and he also killed the fruit that was designated to come forth. That would be the help that was needed, the help that Adam needed. That is Christ.

The Hebrew word translated to my hurt means black and blue. What does black and blue suggest? Black and blue suggests the sowing and reaping judgment. The Scripture says in the book of Proverbs,

 

23:13  With hold not correction from the child: for if  thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. KJV

 

Do not be afraid to hit your children. Do not be afraid if you raise a black and blue mark on them, because you are going to save their life. It is better they have a black and blue behind than be in jail.

We see that Lamech recognizes that he is under the correction of the Lord. He is being beaten by the Lord. This whole world, with all the terrible things that happen here, is Jehovah’s righteous judgment.

He could have just wiped us out and started again from scratch but He decided to correct us and save us. We are suffering pretty severely because of our ancestor’s sin.

Verse 24 says, If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold. I do not know how to explain that to you besides showing you some Kabalistic principles.

 

COMMENT: I was surprised to see Enoch up there on the board under Cain’s descendants (Cainites).

PASTOR VITALE: Yes, that is a message of hope, that there is a remnant. The Lord always saves a tenth. There is a Scripture, I think it is in the Book of Isaiah that says that if the Lord did not have a tenth of us left, we would have been fully and completely destroyed.

 

Isaiah 1:9 Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. KJV

 

God can bring a Godly person out of an unclean root. Jesus had a harlot in his ancestry. That is a powerful statement to make, that Jesus Himself had a prostitute as an ancestor. 

This is the hope of all of us, that Jesus in His physical genealogy had a prostitute as one of His ancestors. The Lord is saving all of us, no matter how wicked we are.

I do not want anyone to think I am preaching Ultimate Reconciliation. He is not saving every single individual that ever lived: He is saving our root.

For those of us in this day and hour that are being saved by the Lord Jesus Christ, it does not matter if we have any kind of sin in our background, He is saving us anyway, out of Cain’s line.

Cain was a murderer.  He murdered his brother and did damage to all of his descendants and is still doing damage.

Everybody that exists on the earth is a mixture, and we do have the righteous seed in us, but He is born dead. When Jesus comes, He can raise our spiritual potential which is Abel, from the dead.  Abel is adam’s root system.

There is hope for everybody. That was the message of Enoch.  Enoch was raptured, but we do not know what that rapture was like, because those beings were not in animal bodies. We just know that God took Enoch without his dying.

God took Moses without his dying. What the Scripture says is that Moses was dead. That is what was told unto Joshua.

 

Joshua 1:2  Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel. KJV

 

As far as Joshua was concerned, Moses was dead, but we see Moses, very much alive, talking to Jesus. Moses died to this world, but Moses was taken up without dying. Elijah was taken up without dying. Enoch was taken up without experiencing death. Did I answer your question?

 

COMMENT: Some of the descendants of Cain have names similar to those of Abel.

PASTOR VITALE: What do you mean?

COMMENT: Like the name Methusael, a descendant of Cain and Methuselah, a descendant of Seth (Abel)

PASTOR VITALE: Oh yes. They were symbiotic twins, so that is not surprising. Cain and Abel cannot be separated. What makes the difference is which one is on top. When Cain is on top of Abel, they are called the Fiery Serpent.  When Abel is on top of Cain, they have another name called Christ, but they are very similar. That is a very accurate observation.

I will show you briefly what  this avenged sevenfold, and avenged seventy times means.

If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold. I have to give you a Kabbalistic principal, because there is no other way to show you this.

First of all, who is doing the avenging? Vengeance is a King James translation of a word that suggests Jehovah’s Sowing and Reaping Judgment. However, Jehovah is not a vengeful God as human beings are vengeful.

Everything that Gods does towards us is motivated by His love. The vengeance He is taking is against sin. Even when it is against sin, everything that He does is motivated by love so vengeance is not a good word, but that is the word that is used in the King James.

Lamech is acknowledging that Cain came under the sowing and reaping judgment on all seven levels of consciousness. Remember that Adam, before the fall, was conscious in all worlds, and He was conscious on all seven levels of consciousness. I cannot go into that right now because that is a CCK (Christ-centered Kabbalah) message. I am just going to leave you with the fact that there were seven levels of consciousness.

Adam, Cain, and Abel were conscious on all seven levels of consciousness. Vengeance was taken; judgment fell on all levels of consciousness. What kind of judgment fell? Death. Adam died to the upper six levels of consciousness and so did Cain. They then fell down into this physical world where we have the emotions of the animal world. We are all animals and our intellect is limited to the ten sub-levels of intellect available in each world. I am not talking about those of us here; I am talking about the average person.

Cain was avenged by dying to six worlds and Lamech was avenged in the seventh world. His generation was the generation in which mankind appeared in flesh.

Lamech is saying that Cain has reproduced himself and several generations have come to pass. Now, in Lamech’s generation, human beings were brought forth in the flesh. Let me repeat the verse that we read that in.

 

19. And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 

20. And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. KJV

 

This is the generation in which Cain’s descendants came into the flesh. These descendants that came into the flesh lost all consciousness on the upper six levels, in Lamech’s time. Lamech took wives and bore children, the line went forward. This seventh level is the visible world Lamech found himself and his descendants existing in.

There are ten sub-levels of consciousness in each of the seven worlds. For people who are carnal, their world is limited to one level of consciousness; they eat, they sleep they have sex, they have babies, they do sports; and they enjoy the things of the flesh. A lot of people in this world, especially in the West, exist on this surface level.

Is there anything wrong with that? No, but that is where they are. It is all physical, very little intellect. There are nine other spiritual levels that people can ascend to.

We have people that are very high spiritually. They have all kinds of spiritual experiences, but it is illegal. There are ten levels of consciousness that people experience illegally in this world. It is witchcraft.

In Christ Jesus we have the potential to ascend to all these ten levels that are available to this world alone, but there are strings attached with spiritual ascension in Jesus Christ. You have to give up your sin nature, or the Lord is not taking you up.

Lamech is saying, The vengeance of the Sowing and Reaping judgment has not just caused me to die to the upper six levels of consciousness but has also caused me to die to the ten spiritual dimensions of spirituality in this present world. I have become very carnal.

Again, I am not putting anybody down. This is the reality. Lamech became a human being, and his descendants became beings that lived only in the outer world. They lived only for the flesh.

Is that not the condition of the world pretty much before the Industrial Revolution?  People spent their whole lives toiling and seeing to the needs of this body.

Even after the Industrial Revolution, my mother-in-law would tell me how she would wake up in the morning to manually sew her children’s clothes. Women cooked and washed clothes, had their own gardens and prepared food. Men worked in the fields. They would work 15 hours a day, and they would have sex and sleep. It was worse before the Industrial Revolution.

I do not mean to put all of that down; that is this life. With all the work, taking care of the family, satisfying the needs of the flesh, of the body, who had time to pursue an intellectual path or a spiritual path? You were spending all your time trying to survive.

I can not imagine waking up in the morning and having to walk half a mile to the well to draw the water, to grind the wheat to bake the bread. I can not imagine it. No one had any time to pursue a spiritual or an intellectual life, except a few privileged people in the world.

That is what Lamech is talking about.  Cain lost access to the six upper levels of consciousness, but Cain was still spiritual in this last world. Lamech said, My descendants and I have even lost the spirituality of this world.

That is the vengeance of seven fold and seventy fold that is talked about. That is the vengeance of Cain and Lamech.

I have a theory which I can not say the Lord told me, but I believe that the cavemen whose remains were found archeologically are the descendants of Cain’s line. I believe that these spiritual beings, these Titans that are reincarnating again today, drew so much energy from the beings that they inhabited that they just descended, they devolved. It is not evolution, but devolution.

They devolved. Their physical manifestations just devolved until they became cavemen. That is my theory anyway.

Maybe they were cavemen at the point the Scripture says such and such became those who lived in tents.

 

Genesis 4:20. And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. KJV

 

 Maybe they were cavemen from the very first physical being in this world.

Even if they were cavemen from the start, they were spiritual beings that devolved from this very high spiritual place. When they finally appeared in the physical world they appeared as cavemen.

We are the descendant of Seth, which is the resurrected Abel.  We are not the descendants of Cain. The physical descendants of Cain were wiped out, especially if they were the cavemen, they were wiped out. Remember, the more spiritual you are, the more energy you take from the person you inhabit.

Did you ever see a movie of the occult where a spirit inhabits somebody? They get sick. When people are possessed, they get sick, and they die because the spirit is taking their energy.

These powerful spiritual beings had physical bodies, whatever they looked like, and they were killing the bodies they were living in.

Is that any different from what is happening today? Brethren, people on the other side of the flood lived five, six, seven, eight, nine hundred years. We are dying young, because we are fallen.

These Titans are incarnating again. What do you think that they are going to do to the people that they are born again in? The people will die.  I do not know exactly how it works. I do not know when, or how long, or where.

They are mighty spiritual beings. They take the energy of the people that they are born in. When Christ Jesus is born in us He gives us energy, and we hope for immortality.

Are there any questions before we close?  Lord willing, next week we are going to go over these same verses, and I am going to look up the meanings of the words. I have two more episodes of Pastor Manning that we will watch, and I will comment on. God Bless.

COMMENT: I was just thinking of the similarities of some of the things you talked about with what we have today. For instance, you talked about Danae, the Greek goddess, in Greek Mythology, and the gold dust that was sprinkling from a window. The same thing happened to xxxx only it was the gold rosary beads flowing down. Also, in Florida, they have this church called Mary Queen of the Universe. Again, you see pictures of Mary standing on the globe, and the snakes all around it, and the halo on her head. Finally, you know how I always twist the words around? Well, one of the words up thereon the board looked like Satan.

PASTOR VITALE: It is no secret that Mary is the head of the Church and that she is really the female goddess, the Serpent manifesting through a Christian religion.  

COMMENT: Like pagan gods?