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NEW YORK CONFERENCE
2nd Night

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NEW YORK CONFERENCE
2nd Night

Pastor Sheila Vitale Preaching

Psalms 25:9 - The meek will He guide in judgment, and the meek will He teach His way.

This word, "Meek," does not mean timid, it does not mean fearful; it means, those who have humbled themselves before the Lord. Your pride will destroy you. You know that the most serious crime in the Scripture is pride. It is more serious than murder. You see, David committed murder, and he was forgiven, and his testimony at the end of his life, is that he was beloved of God.

Pride is the worse crime you can commit, because it is the crime that will destroy you. Pride separates you from God. Pride is not just a thought; pride is not just a feeling; pride is not just a way; pride is a person. Salvation is a person; His name is Jesus Christ. Pride is a person. Your carnal mind is a person, a spiritual person, who seeks to replace God.

I think I mentioned to you last night, that God really has many names. There is just one spirit but there are many administrations of that one Spirit. Well, the Serpent has many names, and many functions. With each function she takes a different name, and pride is just one of her manifestations, and in particular pride is the manifestation of the Serpent that caused this whole mess in the first place in you, and in me. I told you yesterday, you know this is a tough message. Well, if you believe Christ is in you; right; you believe the Holy Spirit is in you; you know the demons are in you. Well, Satan is in you, and the pride of man which is Leviathan, is in you. There is nothing to be afraid of because she was there before you knew about it, and she is going to be there even if you deny it. The best thing to do is to take it on. She is the unconscious part of the carnal mind.

All of the spiritual worlds are within us. You know that is the deepest spiritual truth that I have had the most trouble with, and I still struggle with it but I just believe it. We are outer darkness. These skins are outer darkness, and spiritual life which has no form or shape, is inside of us. All the worlds are in the heart of man, you see, and again we are the spiritual communion; we will appear; we personally, and our community, and our country, and it keeps going out in more and more circles. More and more orbits, ourselves, our communities, our city, our State, our Country, our continent, our worlds. It just keeps moving out. All of these are the expression of who is ruling inside of us. (Pastor xxxxxxx - That's right)

The church has a call; a powerful call to manifest the nature of Jesus Christ, to rise up and overtake the manifestation of the Serpent, who is ruling through mankind. Now, the Serpent is good and evil. This is what confuses everybody. The Serpent is good and evil, but the goodness of man is no comparison to the righteousness of God. Righteousness produces eternal life. (Pastor xxxxxxx That's right) Goodness produces a good life in this world. If you are good to people, you will reap what you sow, but you are going to die.

We are called to immortality in the flesh. We are called to rule the planet, and the universe not just the planet. Not in pride but in kindness. We are called to rule all of the life forms, including the animals. Do you know why the animals are flesh eaters; many animals are flesh eaters? Because when the creation was cut off from God, everybody started to starve. That is why we need food. Everything we need comes from the outside because we are cut off from God. When we get the Holy Spirit, this is the beginning of the restoration of our relationship to God.

Do you know what the phrase, "To be rooted and grounded in Christ," means? It means, to be restored to the root. Everything in the Spirit world is backwards than the way it appears here. If you look at a plant here the plant is rooted and grounded underneath the earth. What you see above the earth is the stalk and the flower. In the Spirit world the root is inside of us. The root is the glorified Jesus Christ who is now anchored in heaven. He can never die again. He cannot fall out of heaven. He cannot. Adam's sin cannot be repeated.

Maybe you all know that Jesus is the last Adam. Jesus came to rectify Adam's transgressions. Jesus came to raise Adam from the dead. What happened to Adam when he fell, he broke into many pieces. Adam was a supernatural giant that was not in a humanoid form.

We are all in an animal body, brethren, and the reason we are in an animal body is because we are the physical manifestation of the animal or of the beast. Who is the beast? Who is the beast that was the most subtle of all the beasts? The Serpent seduced the woman, and the woman produced the offspring of the beast rather than the offspring of God, and therefore the creation, which is spiritual at its root, manifested in an animal form. That is why we do all the things that the animals do. We are not supposed to look like this.

Everybody is born with a particular measure of spiritual energy. Jesus said everyone is born with a measure of faith. What He really meant was, you are born with a measure of spiritual energy. I am going to give you a tough word. This spiritual energy; it either goes up or it goes down; either you use it as the beast would use it, or you use it as a spiritual man would use it. Now, sex is acceptable to God in marriage, but it is still the truth; you only have one message of spiritual energy, and you are responsible for how you use it. That is why fornication is such a crime. It is a crime against yourself; but there is also spiritual fornication; agreeing with the thoughts of the carnal mind.

The Serpent, who is appearing in the world today; that Serpent of old; which means, that ancient Serpent came before time began, because time only began after the fall. There was no time before the fall. The whole creation was eternal, and immortal, and everything just was. Can you imagine that the beginning and the end, existing in the same place. I still have trouble with that today. See, where God is right now, He knows your end; He knows my end; He knows the end. No matter how many people fail to receive this message, no matter how many people cannot grasp it, no matter how many people are frightened by it, there will stand on this earth, a group of people that will manifest the Mind and the Nature of the glorified Jesus Christ. See, that is what the body of Christ means.

The glorified Jesus Christ today is invisible, and we are supposed to be His expression, but we are going this way, and He is going that way. When He zigs, we zag, and then the Church looks like it looks. We are the riderless horses that appear in the Book of Zechariah, but the Lord Jesus Christ has put a saddle on some of us, and fully intends to ride us, praise God. When the Lord rides us, He becomes one with us and we ascend to where He is. We are His flesh, you see.

The Lord Jesus Christ exists in all planes of consciousness. There are multiple planes of consciousness. He is our root. To be rooted and grounded means, that you are spiritually attached to the glorified Jesus Christ, and then nobody could take your life, unless the Lord says, "Okay."

It is wonderful to have the Holy Spirit; I love the Holy Spirit, but the Holy Spirit is almost the beginning. Faith in Jesus Christ is the very beginning, and then you receive the Holy Spirit, but that is not the end of it. The Holy Spirit can be likened to the servant that went out to get a bride. The Holy Spirit comes with gifts, saying, "Come closer; my Master wants to marry you.

There is a marriage, and it is not after physical death. It is right here, in the flesh, and the proof that you are married, is that you speak the words of God. I am a married woman. I have a spiritual husband. Now, you go to Africa; they know all about spiritual husbands, but I do not think that any body in Africa knows about Christ Jesus being a spiritual husband. If you cannot get pregnant they know you have a spiritual husband. They come and they pray for you, and they get rid of your spiritual husband, and you conceive. Anybody here know that? Yes. The marriage that we have in this world is acceptable to God, until this world returns to its first estate.

When the Hebrew children went into captivity in Babylon, the Lord said to them, "Build your houses, plant your vineyards, because you are going to be here for 70 years. Be married, be happy, enjoy your spouses, but you need to know that this is not the end of you. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right). That the true marriage is to the glorified Jesus Christ. Sounds strange?

Look, you have the message of spiritual energy; either you give it to this world or you give it to Him, and that is what the battle is over. There is battle, and the battle is over us. There are two spiritual males fighting over us, and the male that the female chooses; and all of us are female in relation to the spiritual male. The husband that we choose or the champion that we choose; that is who we marry, and that is whose child we bear. You shall be saved in child bearing.

Now, if any of you here think that physical women are saved in child bearing, you just take a look at all the illegitimate mothers around here, and all their illegitimate children, and they are not saved. You shall be saved when you bear the Christ Child. That Christ Child that is being born in Revelation, Chapter 12, but the dragon is right there, ready to consume him as soon as he is born, and that dragon is in your mind; it is your carnal mind. It is the pride of man. When you conceive the Christ Child, you now have two minds. You become a double minded man, and you are in this war.

Now, listen let me tell you something. The Lord has been long suffering for 2000 years, but we are at a crisis point right now. This country is the only country in the history of man that was raised up through the honor of, and admonition of the Lord Jesus Christ. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right). This country is not going down. I cannot prophecy particular events to you, but I will tell you this. It will not fail, and the reason that it will not fail, is because we are; this country in its reprobate state, which today is pretty awful; we are still doing some of the signs in Jesus Christ. You know that we feed billions of people across the world. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right). The mercy of this nation toward starving and homeless people is unprecedented in the history of the world. The Government here, as corrupt as it is, we can still change things peacefully with the vote. God can still move in peaceful channels, and we can still worship the Lord. We can still come to a place like this, (Pastor xxxxxx That's right), and I could stand here saying these things.

Do you ever wonder why some of the apostles were arrested for preaching in the street? What were they saying that they were arrested? Were they talking about the Holy Spirit? Is that why they were arrested? No. No. They were saying, "The Kingdom of God is coming to the earth. Power in Jesus Christ is coming to the earth, that Jesus Christ will rule over all the Kings and all the nations of the world.

Some Christians say, "Okay, when the Lord comes we are going to have Christian Senators and Christian Congressmen. Well, that may be, that may be an outward expression of what happens. Maybe it will be, maybe it will not, but that is not how it is going to happen. It is going to happen right in a building like this, brethren. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right). Right here. God puts down Kings and He raises up Kings, and He is going to do it. He is going to do it through our mind, which is really His Mind. You see, there must appear in this earth, a group of people that manifests the mature Mind of Christ, because He fully intends to have a presence in the earth. Right now He is a bodyless man, or He has a body but it is pretty sick. It is pretty sick. Even my body is pretty sick.

The body of the glorified Jesus Christ is perfect, sinless, without disease, and indestructible. Let us not even talk about poverty. That is not even to be mentioned. The body of Christ has its every need met. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right, absolutely). Every single need, but the body of Christ is holy, and the body of Christ is sinless. This is the ultimate end; this is what we are called to, when He gets us in shape.

Now, this spiritual energy that we have, it is very precious. Jesus called it the fleece of the sheep. He calls us sheep, and He says, "There is someone out there that wants your fleece; or Satan; she wants your fleece." How does she get your fleece? Every time you sin, you discharge your spiritual energy, and she receives it as an offering. It is called, a spiritual sacrifice. We sacrifice every day. Do you think we do not sacrifice any more. We sacrifice every day. Whoever you agree with, you are sacrificing the other guy. Every time you agree with your carnal mind, you sacrifice Christ.

The sins of the Church kill us all the day long. Every time you agree with Christ, you sacrifice your carnal mind, which is a manifestation of the Serpent. Our whole body is a manifestation of the Serpent. Now, listen your challenge is; I am not saying that it is anybody here, I am just speaking; your challenge is to not let this alarm you, but to hear the positive side of this, because the truth will set you free. We must know who and what we are if we are to be changed into the glory of God. If you think that God made you like this, in a body that can bleed to death, that can break; that can cause you untold pain and misery; if you think this is the gift of your God, you are believing the lie of the Serpent, because it is a lie.

Now, look this is the program. Man is good and evil; God is righteous. We must return unto righteousness, and we have to start right we are, and we have to go from evil to good, to righteous. You are not going to go from evil to righteous. You are not going to answer an altar call and jump from evil to righteous. Every evil in you must be forced to the surface, dealt with, and discharged. What does that mean? Replaced with a corresponding quality in Christ. It is called, overcoming. To He overcometh, he will inherit all things. It is an overcoming. It is a process, and you know there is a set time. There is a set time, and I believe the time is at hand. The time is at hand where God is no longer winking. What does that mean? This King James Translation; it is a great book but unfortunately the translators brought it forth with a very negative spirit on it, which has really caused a lot of people to stumble.

God is not angry at you. God loves you. Has any man ever hated his own flesh. He is not angry at you, but He is not in agreement with your sin. You must change. As He brings your sins before you, you must change. He is not angry at you. He is not out to kill you. He is not out to get you. Sister xxxx was talking to me, as she was driving us here today, about how the book of Revelation has, for so long, terrified her. God is not out to send Monster Wilkes after you to sting you, to punish you. He wants you back. We are His wife that ran away, and he wants us back, and he has come to get us, but this is the problem. We have been married to the Serpent for so long that we think we belong here, and when our true husband comes to get us, we think He is the enemy. That is our predicament.

He is not taking us back like this. We have to be cleansed. He cannot take us back to His Father in this condition. We are all a mess. Maybe some a little more or some a little less, but that is just relative. Look, either you are holy and you are righteous or you are not. The test is, are you aging? Do you get sick once in a while? Then you can expect to die. You are not righteous. The Lord is not made for a righteous man, and we die because death is a judgment of the law. Jesus made an open show of Satan's ability to kill Him. Death had no power over Him. Oh, death where is thy sting? Because He was righteous. That is the test.

The Church is being taught you are going to die, and go to heaven and be righteous. Lie, lie, lie. They are lying to the people. That is a lie. What happens to you after you die? I do not know; I have some ideas that I could talk to you about, but that is not what it is all about. What good would it be to focus on what is going to happen to me after I die. Am I going to go and be tortured by demons; I doubt it. It is a lie. You have been sold a lie that is designed to put you in a state of sleep. That you think you just have to walk in a certain walk; you are going to die and you are safe. Oh, I answered the altar call, and you say, "I am safe." The Church has really been taken; so the Church sleeps.

No one is supposed to be afraid. Just fearlessly facing the truth, and saying, "Lord what is my part, what would you have me to do." You do the best you can do, and if you do die, you die having faith in Jesus Christ that you are going to be okay. This concept that is in the Church today; it is either Heaven or Hell, and that, that is the focus of the message. What are you going to do when you die you are going to wake up in Heaven or you are going to wake up in Hell. Do you want to know something brethren? That is Egyptian Religion. It is really not in the Scripture. You might draw that conclusion from the King James Translation, and you have to know where these people were coming from. They were scholars; they were not spiritual men, the King James Translators. They were scholars that knew Greek and that knew English.

Aside from all that, the original New Testament was written in Aramaic and then it was translated into Latin, and those Catholic Brothers got a hold of it, so there is a lot of Catholic doctrine in this King James Translation. Then from the Latin it was translated to the Greek and from the Greek it was translated to the English. I want to tell you if it was not from the absolute mercy of God, this book would be worthless, but because it is anointed and because God loves His people, there is power in this book. There is power to deliver you out of drug addiction, and there is power to deliver you out of alcoholism, and there is power to deliver you out of witchcraft, but there is no power in the message on the surface of this book to deliver you into immortality. It is not there. Have you seen anybody rise from the dead lately? It is not there.

I have told you last night what the Interlinear Text is, and for those of you who were not there, the Interlinear Text is a translation of the original Scripture, which even the original Greek and Hebrew is corrupted. You must get this by the Spirit of Revelation but, of course, the purer the word that you can look at, the better off you are. The Interlinear Text is the original language, either the Greek or the Hebrew, and they give you the translation of each word, word by word; it is not in readable English. It associates each word with a Strong's number, and you could look up that Strong's number, and just like in the English Dictionary, there could be any where from 5 to 20 translations, for each word. This is how I received the part that I did, in receiving this message that the Lord has given me.

I spent years of my life looking up every single word, mostly in the Old Testament. Then looking up in Lexicon, looking at 20 possible translations, and praying until God put the whole thing together for me. Everything I teach, is in the Scripture, but it is an Alternate Translation that came forth from the realm of the Spirit. Now, the message is much clearer in the Old Testament than in the New Testament, because the Greek was really corrupted.

I spent years in the Old Testament, doing exactly what I just described, and the Lord brought forth this intense revelation in me. Then He put me in the New Testament, with a lot of time and power, and I recognized in the New Testament, what I learned from the Old Testament. I realized how robbed the whole Church is. You are robbed; completely robbed. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right). This New Testament is completely emasculated. It is a miracle that it has done the good for the Church that it has done.

You see, Satan will let you go as far as you can. She knows you want to go to church, so she gives you a book. Do not misunderstand me; I am not putting down this Bible. I read this Bible, but when I read it, I read it with the Spirit of Revelation, (Pastor xxxxxx That's right), and it just goes deeper and deeper, but the spiritual word is infinite. Years ago, I use to think I am going to get this whole message, and I get the latest revelation, and I say, "O, well I got it now, I have got the message." Then the Lord just showed me; you fool. You are a fool; you can never get the whole message. It is infinite. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.)

This word is our food. The more we grow, the more the word grows. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) It is the living manna, you see, you will never be hungry. You will never be begging bread, and you are truly serving Jesus Christ, because this word will expand. You have heard that Hell expands. This word will expand. It will expand, and expand, and expand. You will never overtake it. If you pursue the word for the sake of knowledge, you are just going to get puffed up. If you pursue the King; if you pursue Jesus Christ, knowledge is a part of what you acquire, because He is the Word, and as you eat the Word, you become Him. It has to be with the way you think.

You have to start by recognizing your evil side. That evil side has to be dealt with. Everybody is evil; do not feel bad, I am too. That is why I was dying. At 12 years old I started to die. What could I possibly have done at 12 years old? The combination of family line curses; then you just do the same thing, whatever. Does it matter? It does not matter. Just let us get out of this mess. The Lord wants to expose every evil in our heart, so they can be dealt with, and eventually disbursed. That means, at some point ascend above it. The basic human nature will never ascend above it, until the catching up, which I believe is the Rapture. I believe it is a spiritual catching up.

Right now we are two minds, and the two minds are relatively equal. The stronger you get in Christ; Christ is a little higher, but the carnal mind still has power to harass, and do damage. My understanding of what is commonly known as the Rapture; or what, 1 Thessalonians is talking about, is the catching up of Christ at such a height, that He covers over the carnal mind. I mentioned it last night. I believe this is the manifestation of Revelation 20, where the Angel comes with a chain and puts Satan in the bottomless pit.

You see, the Book of Revelation and all prophecy; it is a parable, because the spiritual truth is so awesome that to be able to explain spiritual truth in English or in any language, it can only be done under the anointing of Christ. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) It is impossible to explain spiritual things that the average man in the street can understand. You see, you are a very mature group. I am really enjoying this.

Sometimes the Lord sends me to people that I just say, "I cannot even get a whole sentence out; I say two words and their eyes cross. That is it; it is all over. God will send me some place some time; I will spend two or three hours just fellow shipping with somebody, and the whole time I am praying, "Lord, what do you want me to tell this person?" When I finally get there, it is not even a whole sentence, and their eyes dilate, and they just get up and walk away from me, but I know that they heard what God wanted them to hear. You are getting a very, very mature dose, and it is continuing on and you are all okay; that is amazing.

We have to go from good to evil. Your evil side has to be revealed, and you cannot get all up tight about it. You cannot let your pride get you all up tight about it. She called me evil. We are all evil. We are evil people acting good. (Congregation responding to each other.) That makes us all phonies. Pastor xxxxxx Loud response and congregation speaking to each other.) Well, what do you want? You want me to act bad? No, act good, but do not stay a phony, let us get the real thing. Let us get the real thing. What is the real thing? The righteousness that comes out of your state of being. There is a righteousness that says, and it is not really righteousness but for the sake of this conversation, there is a righteousness that says, "I know this is wrong, and I know this is right, and I choose to do right, and I will not do what is wrong." That is good, and God honors it, but there is no eternal life in that. That is part of your migration from evil to good. That is how you migrate.

Now, you have to take the correction, from Captain xxxxxx, when he comes up here. You have to hear what he is telling you, and you have to do it if you want to move on. No one is forcing you to do it, but you have to do it if you want the promise. You are not going to have the promise without it. Brethren, this migration from evil to good; it has to do with social behavior. It has to do with a lot of what you are being taught here. It has to do with how you relate to other people. It has to do with being on time. It has to do with keeping your word. It has to do with being responsible. It has to do with not spitting on the street. It has to do with picking up the piece of paper, even though it is not in your house, in your church. It is called integrity. You are not going to get to righteousness without passing through that place. You cannot get to Z by jumping from A. You have got to go through.

Now, I do not know about you, maybe you know more than I do, but I did not know a lot of things that I was doing wrong. I did not know they were wrong. Somebody has to tell me that they were wrong. Somebody has to tell you that you are doing something wrong, and it hurts to hear that you are doing wrong. So many people say to me, "Well, why does not God tell me, who do you think you are, anyway; God talks to me all the time, He surely will tell me?" He will tell me if I was Jezebel, and challenging the preacher. I am not Jezebel, get down; I will preach in your place.

People do not know what they are. Do you know how many times I have said to somebody as kindly as I can; "Do you know that is the spirit of witchcraft controlling you, sister." Witchcraft, pride, Jezebel; they do not even know what the word means, and they are ready to jump down my throat. They do not even have a definition of the word. Their pride is so strong; "You cannot tell me anything." Brethren you have to be teachable (Pastor xxxxxx That's right), if you want to grow, and if you want to prosper in this world. You have to be teachable, and then if you try to tell people things, they tell you that you are accusing them. Accusation is a spirit. I am telling you something in the Spirit of Christ, I cannot be accusing you. Accusation is a spirit, and that is from the other side.

Every spirit that I manifest toward you that is not of Christ is designed to bring destruction into your life. If I am truly criticizing you; see there is a difference between criticizing you and critiquing you. If I am criticizing you, it is most likely because I am envious of you, and envy kills. Envy, a murderous spirit; destroys but if I am critiquing you, it is truly the Spirit of Christ. Even if it is not the Spirit of Christ, if you are just a person in this world with a right intension, let us say you from experience, you know that someone is doing something wrong; if you see a younger person doing something really wrong; if your heart is truly to help that person, that is not a spirit of accusation. It cannot be a spirit of accusation. Accusation is a crime against you. To accuse you is a crime against you.

There is one accuser. Who is the accuser? Satan is the accuser. You know what Satan does. Satan sets you up. Satan is the one who tempts you to sin, and then accuses you when you do it. (Congregation and Pastor responding.) She has got it made. You know when I first found that out, I said to myself, "Why, why, why." Every time Satan tempts you to sin, and you agree, and you comply, you discharge a measure of that energy that you came into the world with, and she feeds on it. She feeds on it. Remember when the spies came out from the promise land, and they said, "We see an Anak and the giants there, and we are like grasshoppers unto them. We are bread unto them." That is not just literally talk.

The negative powers and principalities feed off of us. The atmosphere over this community is filled with demons. (Pastor xxxxxx You have got that right.) They are not all demons, you know, there are entities that are not demons, and they are feeding off of the pain and the brokenness of the people that are overcome in this community. They are feeding off of them, just like blood suckers. I use to say, "Why, why does Satan want to do this to us." Well, she wants my soul. Satan is still in my soul. Well, what is that mean? What is she want with my soul. What will she do with it when she gets it? She eats it. How is that? Everybody is in church, singing and dancing and jumping around. Now, that is good at the beginning when you are in pre-school, brethren. You are supposed to grow up and be a man, and go out and kill the blood suckers, (Congregation claps and Pastor xxxxxx says Praise God,) but you have to get the power.

God is not giving you His power without you giving up your sin. That is why the people who practice witchcraft seem to excel above all the sons of God. In fact they do excel above the sons of God, because they just go study under somebody or sometimes they are a natural, and they learn how to do whatever they do. You cannot do that in Christ. You cannot come here and pay me to give you what I have. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) Even if you pay me I cannot give it to you. Only Jesus Christ can give it to you, and there is a price to pay, and the price is your carnal mind. That is the price. (Pastor xxxxxx Absolutely.)

Here is another lie that has been said to the people in the church. That Jesus died in your place. He did not die in your place, brethren. Jesus of Nazareth, who was the Christ, died to this world system, and ascended so that He could ascend into a particular spiritual form, by which He could indwell all of the members of humanity. That is what he did. That was His sacrifice. Now, He is in you, and He is in me, and He is reproducing, intending to reproduce the experience that Jesus of Nazareth had in every human being on the face of the earth. That is His commission. He did not die in our place. We have to die to this world. We have to die to this carnal mind. We have to die to sin. We have to die to death.

You say, "Oh, if you do this or that, you will not be hurt by the second death. I do not want to be hurt by the second death. The second death is the death of death. Everybody is going to die a second time. What it means to not be hurt by the second death is that, when you die the second time, you ascend out of the grave, like Jesus did. This is death; we died and we fell down to Hell; we are already dead.

Some preachers go around preaching, "Given unto man once to die and then the judgment." You die here and then you get judged. You are already dead. You are under the judgment right now. That is why you are in the condition you are in. You have to get your thoughts straight.

Did God give you this life? Whatever your problem is. Whatever my problem is. Is this God's will? No. Is it God's will that you are sick? No. Is it God's will that you die? No. Is it God's will that you are not that smart? No. No. We are His flesh. We are made to manifest His brilliant mind. Christ Jesus is the great equalizer. I heard that preached, I do not know about you; that all are equal in Christ Jesus, but you just look around the church across the board; are we all equal? Are we all equal intellectually? Are we all equal in talent? We all know we are not equal financially, and materially.

Well, is Jesus a liar? Is the Scripture a liar? Or what happens after you die? I got it; I am going to get a mansion, and walk on the streets of gold, and we will all be equal. Oh really. The great equalizer is, Christ in you, the hope of your glorification. What does it mean, the hope of glory? Sounds wonderful. What does it mean. The hope of your glorification. When He comes to you, He starts to change you. You have got to change. Not under your own power. I am not telling you this, so that you should think that you have a burden, that you cannot possibly bear, that you must change yourself. I am telling you this to prepare you to yield to Him, when He comes to change you. You must yield to Him, and you must yield to the man in His pulpit, who is speaking His word. That is how He is ministering to you. Oh, so you have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus, and He talks to you. That is nice, and it is true; when you are in pre-school, when you are a baby. He looks in your crib and He says, guchee goo. When you start to grow up, He sends you to school, and He puts you under a teacher.

Now, when you go to school, when you are a human, you still have a mother, and hopefully a father at home; if you are blessed, and they are still your parents, and they still exercise authority over you; but when you are in school, you have to listen to the teacher. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) When you get homework, you have to take what the teacher has taught you, to your home. The teacher begins to influence your life almost as much as the parents. Sometimes as much and sometimes more. It is good that you have a relationship with the Holy Spirit. You should not lose it; keep it. If you are really hearing from the Holy Spirit, He is sending you to school. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) You have to understand that the Lord is speaking to you through the teacher, and that this is the beginning of your ascension. It is the beginning of your rapture. You see, spiritual things do not happen suddenly. Well, let me put it this way. They happen suddenly in the Spirit, but it takes time for that happening to vibrate into this material world, and manifest. The reason it really takes this long is because everybody is a wild stallion, just running and doing whatever they want. (Pastor xxxxxx You have got that right too.)

You think that you have free will. There is a whole segment of the church that says, "Well, you have free will." No, you do not. You are sold under sin; you are bound. All of us, we are bound. We have free will only to the degree that Jesus Christ holds back the powers and darkness. Now, we come into this world with a measure of blessings and curses. We are born; we are not born within a blank slate. We come into this world with a history; a balance of curses and blessings. You just have to look at your life, and you can decide, not after you die; now, here. You have to labor, and do what is right, even if you do not see the fruit right away.

I was dying when the Lord finally permitted me to draw close to Him. I went 13 years believing that He would heal me, because He told me He would heal me. At the end of 13 years, I was dying, and I do not even know the word to describe myself; but I said to the Lord, "I do not know why you have not healed me Lord, but whatever you want it is okay with me." I was going to die; lay down on my couch, and I was going to die. I refused to go to the doctor; I am very stubborn. I am going to die right on this couch. You have delivered me from 3 curses of death. I had supernatural healing from all kinds of infirmities, and I am still dying. I am going to die right on this couch; I am not moving.

The Lord had to send 3 people, that I had respected, to me, to tell me the Lord wanted me in the hospital this time. Well, it broke my heart that the Lord would put me in the hospital. It really hurt, so my prayer became, "Well, Lord, I do not understand any of this but if I am going to die, please make it quick." I would wake up every morning; (Congregation laughter), Oh no, but I told you all that to tell you this. It really depends the degree of the spiritual trouble that you are in. I did not do anything that terrible that I know of at eleven years old, when I started to die, so I guess it was on the family line. What could an eleven year old do that would require the judgment of death.

Well, the curses go unto the 3^rd and 4^th generation. The blessings go for a thousand generations. My point is this. I just kept on going, and obviously I came out of the hospital, but I still was not well for a long time. I said to the Lord, "What is going on here, what is happening." The Lord said to me, "You are ascending spiritually, while your body still declines." Your body will reach a point where the curse will completely lose its power, because the spiritual ascension will counteract it, and then you will start to heal. That is exactly what happened to me, but it has taken years and years. What you see up here now, is not what I looked like for the majority of my life. I tell you this so that you should understand that it is a process that takes time, whether your problem is poverty.

You know that the Lord can make you intelligent. Do you know that if you are not intelligent, the Lord can make; this word can make you intelligent, if you do not give up. You have to pray and pray for understanding, and you will get a miracle; you will. When I first came to the Lord, for the first time in my life I had hope. I did not have any understanding, but I had hope, and I opened that Bible, and I did not understand a word that it said. Not a word, but I heard some advise; that I should read the Bible every day, and I did it. Do you know it was painful for me to be reading and especially the prophets that I did not understand, and I did it for six months. I read a couple of Chapters a day. My mind was going crazy, and then one day this big vision opened up in my mind's eye. I did not know it at the time but it was the angel from the Book of Revelation, with one foot on the land, and one foot on the sea, and he was raising his arm in such victory. From that day forward, the Scriptures opened to me.

Maybe you will not have my testimony, but you must understand the condition that we are in, is a condition of death, (Pastor xxxxxx That's right,) and the Lord is here to get us out, but there is a lot for us to do. He has provided the power but we must lay hold of the power, and do it. Every church that you have ever been in, that has told you that dancing and singing will do it, you have been victimized. Now, dance and sing; I really enjoy the song service. I am not saying not to dance and sing but that is not the whole thing. There is a lot more.

I have had people tell me, "I cannot study, I am not a student; my thing is evangelizing, I am going to go out, and give out the word." Brethren, there is no life in that. Is a bad thing? If God calls you to do it, it is not a bad thing but if you are doing it in place of applying yourself to a course of study that is going to build Christ in you, for you, it is sin. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right, that's right.)

You know there are people that are crying out to God, "Help me, help me, help me, help me, and God sends you to a church like this, and you say, "That is not for me, I cannot take that, I cannot take that discipline." You do not have a choice. Obedience is the name of the game. We do not even understand what obedience means.

You know, not too long ago, the Lord said to me, "I want you to start drinking water." I said, "But Lord I do not like water." Wrong answer. (Congregation laughter) Wrong. I woke up in the middle of the night; 4 o'clock in the morning; I was in an ambulance headed to the hospital with a kidney stone. Now, I drink water. You see, the Lord is telling me to drink water. I call it the White Throne Judgment. The church says that the White Throne Judgment is for the sinner, and all that false doctrine that is out there, brethren. The White Throne Judgment mediated by Jesus Christ; it is the mercy of God. He came to me and said, "Drink water." I said, "No." He said, "Okay Satan, take her," and I wound up in the hospital.

Satan is the enforcer of the Sowing and Reaping Judgment. The Lord came to me and said, "I am going to help you to avoid that experience, just start drinking water, and you will be okay." I told God, "No." Do you know we tell God, "No," every day. Every day we tell God, "No." Oh, was that God, I thought it was just a thought in my mind. The Lord does not punish you, you have got to understand this. You have got to understand this. The whole human race is under the judgment of death. We all died in Adam. He sinned and he died. We were in his loins at the time that he died, and we are all dead, and we are under the Sowing and Reaping Judgment, which is the foundational law of the Universes, put in place by Jehovah Almighty God.

Jesus Christ has come to save us from the law because the end of the law is death. The end of the commandment is righteousness unto eternal life. When Jesus comes to you, either personally, like He came to me, or to the man who is sitting in this pulpit, or anybody else as long as it is the right Spirit, you have a choice. If you could just understand, if you could just recognize it, a correction is coming your way, and say, "Lord that is grievous to me, but help me to do it," you will avoid the consequence unto destruction.

Now, I did not die in the hospital I just had a bad day, moaning and groaning for a few hours. Did I need that? Did I need that in my life? No, I did not need that in my life. We have got to get a more realistic understanding, even of judgment. You see, it is not Satan out there chasing after you. It could be in an extreme case but not always. When bad things happen to us; if you want to make the best of it, you can say, "Lord, what was my part in this." I am not saying that you are guilty. I am not saying that you are bad. Ask God, "How did I contribute to this; was there any way I could have avoided this? What will You teach me; what will you teach me from this bad experience that I had. How will You be glorified in this experience that I had? What kind of understanding can you give me, so that I will not make the same mistake in the future?" The end of living like this, is that you become very wise; you become a wise man, and then you start to teach others, and we are preparing the season for the ascension. There is a season.

All these 2000 years God has given the church and individual men; you see there is also another false doctrine in the church; if you have heard this thing that we all have to go up together. Have you heard that? That is a very, very wicked doctrine because do you know what it does? It makes desperate men start to manifest witchcraft towards other men who are not interested in going up. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) Tries to force them to go up because the man that believes this says, "Well, I cannot go without you, so you best start going up." Very wicked doctrine.

Look, you receive the Holy Spirit one man at a time and you ascend one man at a time. (Pastor xxxxx That's right.) It is between you and Jesus. Do not let any man tell you that you could be held back because of another man. Jesus is your God. He is your primary relationship. You follow the man in the pulpit as long as he follows Jesus Christ. If he does not follow Jesus Christ, you walk out the door.

There is a time for 2000 years individuals and the church have had the opportunity to acquire what we saw at the beginning. Paul ascended but he said that he had to be offered up because he was born out of season. Paul was not killed. Paul did not die. I should not say he was not killed. He did not die because he was the way of all flesh. When the Scripture says, Paul was offered up, that means he did not have to die. Who offered him up? The Father said he cannot stay, he would have to go because it was not time for spiritual ascension. What does that mean? I am not sure. The Lord knew that it was going to take the whole body 2000 years to get to this place? I do not know. There is a lot I do not know. There is more I do not know than I do know. You know the more you learn, the more you know you do not know anything. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) I do not know anything. I am a novice. That is true.

You know the Lord has given me dreams. I use to have a lot of dreams in which I was the receptionist. I use to say, "Why am I the receptionist in all these dreams, Lord?" He told me because that is the way you are, you are the receptionist. (Pastor xxxxxx laughter.) Brethren, you have to know who you are. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) A recent dream that I had; I was a nail technician. Any of you ladies have nails? I have nails. I was a nail technician. I said, "Lord, why was I a nail technician in this dream?" He said, "Because you are making people spiritually beautiful, but that is all you are, you are the nail technician." I am telling you; the Lord will tell you the truth.

We have had 2000 years, and nobody that I know of has made it. I would like to believe that if somebody entered into immortality in the flesh, in the passed 2000 years, after, of course, the experience of our Lord, that we would have heard about it. Nobody has made it. We have had 2000 years, and the free time is up. It has to happen. God is not mad at you, if you are not one of the people that will stand. He is not mad at you, but if you want this, He is going to make you to stand. If you are willing to pay the price, He is going to make you to stand, and you start with having your very minor character flaws exposed. You start learning how to submit to the eldership in the church, even if you do not agree with what they are saying.

Submission is not only doing what you are told. Submission is an attitude of mind. See, what I tell everybody in my church is that if I say something that you really think is wrong, this is how you handle it. You go before the Lord. First of all you assume that you do not understand. You must give the benefit of the doubt to the person who is given the rule over you. You go before the Lord, and you say, "Lord, help me to understand; I am going to give the benefit of the doubt to my Pastor, and I am going to assume that I do not understand or that I am wrong but I ask You to help me deal with this, give me understanding, and if, by some way out chance my Pastor is wrong, well then just straighten it out, that we should have an agreement of mind, but my first position is, that he is right and I am wrong." That is how you deal with it. You have to give it up, you see. If you give up that opinion, that is opposing and waging war against the opinion in the pulpit, because all that you have when that happens, is destructive interference. That is determined in Quantum Mechanics, you know. Destruction; nothing good comes out of it.

You have to submit, submit. It is an attitude of the mind; it is something you can choose to do, and God will vindicate you. He will give you peace. If you will submit, God will give you peace. Either He will give you understanding or in the event; I know that I have made mistakes, I have gone to people and told them I was wrong. It does not happen very often, but it happens. (Pastor xxxxxx Yes.) It happens, right? (Pastor xxxxxx Yes it happens.) You cannot do it yourself because then you steal the peace of the church, you steal the peace from the man of God, and the Spirit of God goes down, the carnal mind comes up. There is strife and contention in the church, and the whole program goes on hold.

So the time is up, see, and the reason I believe the time is up is that Christianity is under an attack that is designed to wipe it out from the face of the earth. You see, the forces and the powers and principalities that are moving today, they are not fooling, and the church is sleeping. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) They do not know what they are supposed to be. They are supposed to be the elect. I have been saying for years; I heard Pastor xxxxxx preach this recently; I have been saying for years that the forces of darkness are about to be unleashed on the face of this earth, the likes of which we have never seen before.

Every evil thought; that is what I heard Him say. Every evil thought of man is going to come to the surface, and there will be no power in the authorities of this world to stop it. Not in the police, not in the army. It will take supernatural power to stop it, and I believe that, that is the Sons of God. I believe the rapture is a spiritual rapture, and we will be caught up to the power in Christ, and we will be the policemen of the world.

We will be the only source of hope of people in this world. You see, what is happening; I do not know how far it is going to go before the Lord stops it completely. The witchcraft is on the rise in this country, and what does witchcraft do? It controls people. Witchcraft is control. Now, I understand that in Nigeria, right now, there is a physical battle going on between the Moslems and the Christians, and it has become a spiritual warfare. People's houses are burning up. People's houses are spontaneously combusting, and the police; they know what it is. The police know what it is. There is nothing they can do. It is mostly the Christians, because it is the Moslems that are fanatics. The Christians are just saying, "Help me, help me, help me." I am telling you the truth; that is what they are saying. They are not trained to fight, and the Moslems with their fanaticism are literally causing houses to explode, and the people are homeless. The police in the area; what do you want me to do.

Everything that we have in this country to whatever degree we have it, it is very deficient but it is the best in the world. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) The police force that we have, the sanity that we have, the laws that we have, it is dissolving. It is slipping through our hands like sand, as Christianity is repressed, and suppressed, and forced down in this nation. The people that are doing this are so ignorant. They have no idea what they are unleashing in this nation. They have no idea, and the only hope will be the people who have ascended in righteous power in Jesus Christ.

I want to leave you with this thought because there is a lot going on in the church today. The church is very fragmented. There are a lot of messages out there, called the Kingdom Message. All different messages that are talking about power in Jesus Christ but look for the righteousness. Look for what they are preaching about righteousness because they are phonies. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) They are phonies. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.)

Okay, the Lord just reminded me, I have to tell you this before I go. There is going to be two ascensions. One unto righteousness, and one unto damnation. Amen. We are told that in the Scripture. John told us that. There is two ascensions. What does that mean? It means that not only is Christ ascending to spiritual power; awesome spiritual power but the carnal mind, which is the manifestation of the Serpent, is about to rise up into awesome spiritual power. Each and every one of us has the potential; let me say this first. You see, we are not born yet; we are all in utero. We are in spiritual utero.

The Scripture says; I think it was Paul who said it. You know we do not know what we are going to be but we see Jesus. Well, what does that mean? It means that we do not know whether we are going to be born, as a Son of God or a Serpent, but we see Jesus, which means, let us do all that we have to do to be born like Him. If you are not born as a Son of God; if you do not do anything to pursue this ascension in Christ but you are pursuing spiritual ascension, you are going to be born as a Serpent. You better look like a human; you are not going to become a snake. A spiritual Serpent. You are going to become a super witch. Does that sound strange to you? What about Simon the Sorcerer. He was a Jew. The whole town went after him. Were they that stupid? No, they were not that stupid. He was probably their Rabbi. He was their Rabbi when he was in right standing with God, and he sinned, and he became a super witch, and the whole town went after him.

Oh, look at the signs and wonders, oh. Do not look for the signs and wonders. You see, the Jews look for the signs. The Jew, he looks for a sign and a wonder. No, the only sign you are going to get is Jonah, 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the whale. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) What does that mean? This whole creation is the big fish, brethren. We were all swallowed up by a big fish, and that big fish spit out Jesus of Nazareth. That is the only sign you are going to get. Deliverance from Hell and death. Do not be all excited about signs and wonders because there are a lot of phony signs and wonders coming out of people that are naming the name of Jesus. If you believe everything that you hear, you will be deceived.

Try the Spirits, brethren, and do not think that you know how to do it without the help of Jesus because there is a subtly out there today that is designed to utterly swallow up the church, and it is happening.

I heard a woman honking like a goose, and she thought it was tongues. Have you heard that? Honking like a goose; "Oh, the Lord gave me an utterance in tongues," and the man in the pulpit saying, "Amen," and then preaching in raps. Men preach in raps. I was in the church, and they wave their flags all around, and they marched around the church, and a couple of women danced, and they swirled around, and they kill Jesus.

Do you know, I was in a Service where the anointing was on the Musicians, and the false anointing was on the preacher, or on somebody else, (it was a long time ago, I am not sure,) I actually saw that warfare between the two spirits trying to prevail in that Service. Every time the Musicians played the Holy Ghost came up, and every time the other person, whatever they were doing, spoke; the anointing went down. Do you know what the most horrifying part of the whole thing was? I was the only one in the whole building that knew what was going on. That is what is the terrifying part about the whole thing. The church is not equipped, they are not equipped.

My last word to you is, and again please you must resist fear, you must. The truth is your defense. We can be born as a Son of God, or we can born as a son of Satan, or a daughter of Satan; she is female. There are going to be two companies in the earth, of supernatural giants that are going to slug it out. Paul said, "We do not know what we are going to be, but we see Jesus." Let us follow after Him, and be born as a Son of God. I bet that nobody knew that.

The church is in great danger, and people do not want to hear this. You see, that is why the church is not full tonight, but everybody that is supposed to be here is here. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) Everybody is not capable of walking in this right now. If you are here, you are invited. You are invited, and the Lord elects everybody that runs after Him. You see, it is not one of those things where He says, "I will take you but I will not take you, or I do not like the way you look but I will take you." No. You can be elected. Pant after the Lord. Pant after the Lord. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.)

Do you know there is a Scripture the Lord gave me. He told me that I could think of Him as being way up high in an airplane. Everybody down here waving something, a bright colored thing and saying, "Save me Lord, save me," waving flags, and He looks down out of His plane, and He chooses everybody whose flag He can see. The one who is yelling loud enough, they are the ones He takes. Not that He wants you, and He doe not want the other person, He is not a respecter of other persons but He is taking the ones that are running after Him, that are knocking on His door, and will not stop knocking, that is what you have to do, to get elected.

Now, there is a whole element in the church that are babies, and they will probably pass out of this world, babies. That means, that they are like not spiritual at all. See, you are a spiritual group. It is the spiritual people who are in danger. That is the word, (I keep hesitating, because I am waiting for someone to get up and run out of here screaming, but nobody is doing it.) (Pastor xxxxxx and congregation laughing.)

Listen, you are in danger because you are spiritual people, and the ascension is coming. If you do not ascend in Jesus, Satan is coming to cause you to do ascend in the Serpent, and ignorance or lack of education will cause you to default to a spiritual ascension in the Serpent. That is your default. Do you know what that means? That is how you are going to ascend. You are going to mature. You are getting ready to be born. You see, you are in uderal, and if you do not come in and interfere with the process, you are going to be born in the Serpent, and this is true for all spiritual people.

Basically I am sent to spiritual people, and the Lord is giving them this message. They hear this message, and seek me, and start following this program or you are going to arise, and you wake up in the morning you are going to find out that you are a Serpent, and not a Son of God. You will already have been formed in that configuration.

There is a Scripture that talks about, (I think it is in the Book of Zechariah,) it talks about Israel being ready for love and ready for marriage. It is the time for love. The marriage is coming but there is two men that want to marry you. You know what this is? It is the reversal of what happened at the beginning of time. You know, Jehovah was coming to marry Adam. Adam was set up in the Garden. He was given righteousness that he had not earned. He stood above the darkness in the world, because there was darkness from the beginning. Darkness in a part of the creation. You cannot have a visible form without darkness. If everything was light, if I was all light, and I stood against this light background, you would not see me.

Darkness is a part of the creation, but when God formed darkness, the Scripture clearly says, He created the evil. He created the darkness but He created it to be under the dominion of Adam. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) The darkness had a function, and the darkness was not destructive. Adam had a righteousness that he did not earn, and the Lord said to him, "Just obey my commandment; just do what I tell you to do, and wait because I am coming to marry you, and this marriage is going to produce a righteous mind in you, that will be rooted and grounded in Me, that you will become incapable of falling." Just obey the law until I complete you. You are not perfected yet. You are only standing because I stood you up. You are incapable of standing above sin by yourself.

I am certainly not getting in the whole thing now, because it would just take too long but Adam was tricked. Oh, I thought it was the woman that was seduced. What are you talking about? Oh, my goodness I cannot get into this whole thing right now. Listen, the woman was wholly seduced. That is what Paul said, and the man was tricked. Look up those words. Look up the words that are here in the King James. That is what it says. The woman was wholly seduced. It means, she did not stand a chance. The man, he stood a chance. He knew better but he was tricked. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) He was tricked, you see. The reason he was tricked was that it looked okay. It looked okay, and he forgot God's commandant.

Listen, I have to close. The creation fell. Adam fell and he died, and we died in him, and what is happening now is the exact reversal. Jesus of Nazareth was the first member of humanity in which, Adam, the glorious being that God created rose from the dead. We are all the descendants of the Adam who died. He fragmented. When he died he fragmented, and he broke into many pieces. You know that nursery rhyme - Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the kings horses, (we are the horses, we are the riderless horses,) and all the kings men, they could not put Humpty Dumpty back together again, but Jesus Christ can put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

Adam is being raised from the dead, a piece at a time. We are the pieces of his body. It is the complete reversal, and at the time of the reversal, the Serpent is right here trying to do the same thing again; do not marry God. Right now Jesus Christ has ascended beyond the Adam in the Garden, He is now our Father. He has become our Father, God. We are the Sons. Jesus has become the Father, and we are in the same exact spot, (well, not the same exact spot). Adam was without sin when he fell. We have not sinned after the similitude of Adam. We are already fallen. At this point we cannot sin but basically foundationally the same thing, there is nothing new under the sun. Jesus is saying, "Just follow me, just follow the instructions, be in obedience, be in submission, just occupy until I come, and I am going to marry you."

He is not going to marry our body, He is going to marry the Spirit of our mind. You see, we are going to be renewed in the Spirit of our mind, and He is going to give us an incorruptible mind. That foundation, that incorruptible foundation. It is a mind, that will make us incapable of being deceived. Deceived about what? Deceived about sin. We will never sin but this work has to be accomplished in us, and the Serpent is right there saying, "O, follow me, I am God, look at these wonders that I can do, look at this wonderful doctrine."

A lot of people are chasing after doctrine today. I love doctrine but it must be the doctrine that arises out of the Christ within me, which is accompanied by a pursuit of holiness and righteousness. You cannot pursue the word alone, and signs and wonders alone, and ascend in Christ. You will ascend but you will be ascending in the Serpent, and you will not be able to tell. I know people that this is happening to right now. You cannot tell them affix. They are convinced they are ascending in God.

There is a man in Florida, someone that was going to this church, and was studying with me, and they sent me an email, and said; he is really off, this man, and they sent me an email and they said, "He stood up in front of the church, Pastor so and so, and he said, "If I am wrong, let God show it to me." Well, two months later I wound up in his church, and I went in, and just attended the Service like I usually do. He preached on James, who was talking about the devilish wisdom. Now, the teaching in this church is, that there is only one ascension, and that everything that happens is from God. Every demonic thing that happens is from God. Everything is God. There is no devil. He believes there is no devil, there is no Satan, there is no sin, and everything is of God, and he is waiting for the ascension. So, I come into his Bible study, (you see the Lord loves this man.) This man was a missionary for 20 years. His whole life was in service to God, and he is utterly seduced. He is still under the influence of the Holy Spirit to some degree because he is preaching on a devilish wisdom.

I am sitting there praying through the whole Service saying, "Lord, I am not saying a word until you open this up." The whole Service ended, and I said, "Well, I guess the Lord is not going to talk to the man, and one thing happened after another. Everybody left; there were only 4 people left, the Pastor, me, his son, and Sister June, back there, who you see at the book table. Sister June was playing her clarinet, so the Pastor's son came over and started talking to June, and that left me with the Pastor. He said to me, "Do you know what, someone has ascended already over in India, some Hindu. He did not say some Hindu, I am telling you some Hindu, and I opened my mouth, and the Lord said to him, "Amen, they ascended on the other side; that devilish wisdom that you just preached about tonight has produced an Ascended Master." He looked at me; his eyes crossed; he became nervous, we left the church, and I never heard from him again.

This is a man who, every time I went into his church, announced to the whole church, "I will always honor you," because of something that happened in his personal life. I will always honor you because of what the Lord did through you. When the Lord spoke that word through me, that was the last time I heard from him. He actually thought that a Hindu ascending, (if it is true, I have heard that, I do not know if it is true,) but if it is true, the ascension of a Hindu is giving these Christians, (the man is still naming the name of Jesus, he is just utterly seduced.) That gives you hope that you are going to ascend because some guru ascended. A missionary, in the Mission Field for 20 years. His whole life given over to God, and he is utterly seduced. That is what is going on in the church.

Look I have told you, you do not know what you are yet. I do not know what I am yet. I hope that I am going to be born a Son of God, and I believe I have reason to hope that, and everybody here has reason to hope that but do not take it lightly. Seek God, attach yourself to the church that He attaches you to, which is probably here, submit to the man of God, ask the Lord what He wants you to do, and start pursuing. Do not panic because there is going to be a catching up. I fully believe this, that nobody can ever be prepared for the ascension through knowledge.

You see, I have had people look at me, and they walk away depressed. I have had people come to me and say, "I am leaving because I am depressed, I can never acquire the knowledge that you have." Well, that is your pride talking, brother. That is your pride talking. No one ever said that you have to acquire the knowledge that I have because salvation is not in knowledge. It is through union with the Son of God. Salvation is through union with the Son of God, and the people that come into the Garden at one minute to midnight are being taken in the same way as the people that have been laboring for years. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.)

You be faithful to God, you believe the truth, and reject the lie, start living a life of the truth. It is the Spirit of Truth that will set you free. Well, we all heard that before - the truth will set you free. What truth? When I talk like this, I am not knocking what happened, that Jesus was crucified and He rose again, that is true but that alone is not going to set you free. You have to know the whole truth. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right.) The whole truth; who Jesus was. Who it was that incarnated as Jesus. What happened to Him? What is happening now? What is the end of the plan? What is required of you? The whole truth.

I do not believe I have the whole truth but what I know has blown me away time and time, (you see, you are blown away, I have been going through this for 15 years or more.) When the Lord first started bringing forth this revelation in me, I thought I had a demon. I would be spreading eagle on my living room floor, saying, "God deliver me, where is this stuff coming from." I just kept on praying, and I just kept on going, and today I do not have a doubt in my mind where it is coming from. Do not think you have to reproduce me, you have to be you, and the Lord is looking for faithful people who are fearlessly willing to embrace the truth, as He shows it to them.

There is a catching up, I am convinced of it. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, after you have given your whole life to Christ, if you can hear that. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, after you have given your whole life to Christ, suddenly He will visit you. The Lord will come to His temple. He is going to push down your carnal mind. He is going to exalt His Son in you, and He is going to attach Himself. The glorified Jesus Christ is going to attach Himself to the Christ in you, and strengthen Him, so that your carnal mind will not be able to get up out of that pit. When you have that experience you will know all things because Christ knows all things. The only reason you are in the condition you are in now is because you are living out of your carnal mind. Be careful, watch your pride. You do not have to preach, you do not have to do what I do. He wants you to be waiting for Him. He wants your mind to be open to this catching up. To the spiritual catching up. He wants you to know what is going to happen, so that when He comes, you will say, "Amen Lord." You are all called; that is good news. You survived two nights of this. (Pastor and Congregation in laughter.) You are still sitting there; that is amazing. You are going to stand. This group is going to stand.

The last group that the Lord sent me to, they did not stand. The witch was already in the congregation when I got there. I did not know it. There was a couple running the church. The woman was very anointed. She kept trying to honor her husband, but the truth is, that she was more anointed than he was, and she was utterly seduced by a witch that was already in the midst of the church.

As soon as I left, their life fell apart, they lost their home. They are okay now; faithful people of God; they survived; but the fellowship broke up. This woman, who has been called for years; and do you know what seduced her? The spiritual signs of the witch; "Oh, she is so spiritual, she is so spiritual." They turned the whole congregation over to her, but it is not going to happen here. You have a strong leader. Yes.

The group broke up, and the witch gathered in a whole bunch of the people, beautiful bunch of people, and started having meetings in her house, and she was teaching them magic, and they were all captured under her power. But I just had some good news though; that the main couple that was captured most severely; (the 2 Pastors, they were pastoring together); they rallied; they got delivered; they repented, and they were starting to pray for these people.

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I received an email; really good news; that the one couple that was captured most severely had come to their house, and they were explaining to this couple what had happened, how this woman was a witch. You know, the church has to wake up. You know, witches do not walk around with black pointed hats, you know. The truth is; I do not even know if this woman knew that she was a witch herself, but she was a witch. What is a witch? She exercised spiritual power apart from God, (Pastor xxxxxx That's right) and she divided that congregation, and she took them in, and she was teaching them magic in the name of Jesus.

This couple came to the house of the two pastors, and they started explaining to them what had happened, and how the seduction had taken place, because it took place over a period of time; seduction usually does, and the woman; (this was the two pastors, were a couple, and then it was a married couple who were visiting them); the woman, started to get a headache. As the pastors were explaining what happened in the operation of this woman who was a witch; the headache became so severe, she jumped up and ran out of the house, and started vomiting. She vomited for almost 5 minutes, and when she came back in, she was completely delivered. Her mind was clear, and they continued the conversation and the explanation, and I hear that they are fully restored.

Why do I tell you this. I tell you this for two reasons because I fully believe that Captain xxxxxx will stand. There is not a doubt in my mind, and that those of you who follow him, will stand with him but I also want you to know that this is a serious business. (Pastor xxxxxx Yes, yes.) The church is playing games.

You know when I first came to the Lord, I was all messed up. I was pursuing fortune tellers, and palm readers, and astrologists, and all that among other things. I was going to this physic astrologist, and every time I would go, I would see a vision of a witch in a black pointed hat stirring a caldron. I was so dumb that I went to her, and I said to her, "Are you a witch." That is how dumb I was, really. She said, "O, no I am not a witch." She did not know she was a witch but you see, God was with me. I had this call on my life but I did not know from anything. Every time I went there, something bad happened to her. Every time I went she was getting fatter and fatter and fatter, until she became a round ball, (Congregation - Laughter,) then she had a heart attack. I am telling you, she was a round ball. (Pastor xxxxx and congregation - laughter.) Then she had a heart attack, then her husband had a heart attack, then she broke her toe. Then finally the Lord got through to me, and just rip me out of there.

Was God personally punishing her for talking to me? No. See, there are laws. There are laws. First of all, it is illegal to practice this kind of witchcraft, but to practice this kind of witchcraft on someone with a call on their life, even if you do not know they have that call on their life, brings down judgment on you. It is automatic, it is automatic. God is not up there hating you. If I step on this, if I would step hard enough, I would go through the platform. It is an action and a reaction. The conscious intention of God is the intervention, which is in Christ Jesus. Every thing else is on automatic. Satan has full control. Why? Why does Satan have this power? Because she is executing God's law.

I will open the floor for a couple of questions. Just let me give you some guide lines, please. I would prefer it if you stayed within the guide lines of what I have spoken about, but I will not insist on it but I will tell you this. That if you ask me a question that I think is inappropriate, not necessarily that you have done something wrong but if it is a question that might take too long to answer, or that I find that I cannot simplify it enough for you at this time, or for any other reason, if I think that your question is inappropriate, I would ask you to please not be offended, and to just sit down, and pass the microphone. Does anybody have a question?

QUESTION: I have a three part question, I mean; one of them is, would you take on speaking in tongues. Would you elaborate on it a little bit. What is your view on speaking in tongues?

PASTOR VITALE: What is my view on speaking in tongues. I believe that speaking in tongues is one of the stages of maturation in the Lord, but there are false tongues. You have to be aware that there are false tongues. They are definitely of God.

QUESTION: How can you tell the difference?

PASTOR VITALE: You have to submit yourself to a man of God, who will try the Spirit on you. If it helps you any, I had false tongues. I was a mess. I was really a mess when I came to the Lord. I had the false everything. I had to get delivered from everything. Submit yourself to the church, submit yourself to the elders of the church, and have them pass judgment on your tongues, and if it is not of God, you get delivered. No big deal. When you get delivered, you will get the real thing.

QUESTION: On tithing, I was wondering; because I was talking to a friend of mine, and would you think, will it be great if we, like, saw on a subway, and if we just let God talk to us, and maybe, like, gave out like $5000 to people that we thought that needed it, do you think would that be okay. (Pastor Vitale - in place of) Is that okay with God if you did something like that? Because when you see a lot of single parents, you know, kids, struggling.

PASTOR VITALE: Are you asking me if you can do that instead of tithing?

QUESTION: Yes. Would it be okay with God if you did something like that?

PASTOR VITALE: Well, you cannot do that with tithing because the Law of Tithing is that you tithe to the Priest that feeds you. You have to tithe to the teacher that is educating you. Anything like that would be a free will offering. If God is telling you to do it, it is a good work but be careful that your pride does not get a hold of you, and bankrupt you. Also, you know sometimes giving money to people cannot be the best thing for them, if they are not responsible people. You really have to go by the anointing.

You have two questions there. No, you cannot do that instead of your tithe. If you use your tithe money to do that, the Lord will see you as not tithing. Again it is not God, sitting up there saying, "You have not tithe," but you will come under the established judgment for taking the teaching, and the spiritual blood of the man who is over you, and not doing your part.

PASTOR VITALE: Anybody else?

QUESTION: When you spoke yesterday on the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ, I was just wondering if you just would elaborate a little more on that, if you can go back?

PASTOR VITALE: It is not late for me but I feel you all want to work tomorrow and all that. I really feel that the people here have had enough but I will go over it briefly, okay. Again this is a radical teaching, you know because we are taught that Jesus died for us, but the truth of the matter is that the son of man as the Son of God did not die. The son of man died, which says that out in the Scripture. Every time Jesus spoke about the coming crucifixion, He said, "The son of man is going to suffer."

What happened was, when Jesus' physical body was crucified, the spiritual man withdrew from that body, and, in fact, the physical body only died as a result of the spiritual man departing from it. He did not die from the crucifixion, you know. When the Scripture says, "Jesus is risen," everybody thinks that He died, and He rose from the dead but the son of man did not die. He rose out of the dead carcass that he was incarcerated in. You know that Scripture that says, "Where the carcass is the eagle flies." Do you know what that means? It means, your carnal mind is the carcass. You see, the carnal mind is the animal. The carnal mind is the beast; it is in us. Where the carcass is; when your carnal mind is dead, the Christ mind becomes an ascended eagle. That is the mystery. When you die to your carnal mind, Christ ascends. Did I answer your question? I have a book out there called, "The Eagle Ascended," where I deal with that issue. You might be interested in that.

PASTOR VITALE: I will just tell you this; I am going to leave you with this. There is a difference between the crucifixion of Christ and the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth. I am going to leave you with that. I have it in that book, "The Eagle Ascended." There is a difference. Christ crucified. Paul said, "I am crucified, yet I live." I live by the life of the Son of God. The crucifixion of Christ; (see, because you hear that Christ was crucified, so you think that Christ died but the man, Jesus of Nazareth died.) The Christ that was within the man, Jesus of Nazareth; that Son of God that was formed in the man, Jesus of Nazareth, crucified the carnal mind that Jesus received from His mother, completely penetrated Him, and of the twain God made one new man. You see, the darkness was relegated to the place, (I mentioned that earlier,) to the place where it could do no harm, and it was serving the function of this ability. Did you understand what I said? I will say it again, if you need me to. Want me to say it again?

The crucifixion of Christ, (I have this in a couple of books.) The crucifixion of Christ, (I talk about this at the back of the Book, "Mind, Hell and Death." Christ is a mind. What made Jesus of Nazareth the Christ, was that He had the Mind of Christ, and that Mind of Christ had completely suppressed the carnal mind that Jesus inherited from Mary by the Spirit of Holiness, (we are told about in Romans 1:4. The man, Jesus of Nazareth lived every thought out of the Mind of Christ, and that made Him be Christ, the Son of God, incapable of sin. The Christ was sustaining His life. You see, the carnal mind sustains our life. If you put a knife in my heart right now, I would die but if the Christ that is talking to you all night, was sustaining my life, the knife in my heart would not kill me. You see, I am not completely converted yet. I still have my foundation, it is still carnal. The crucifixion of Christ is that the two minds within the man, Jesus came together, and the Mind of Christ can be likened to a sword, (we know that, right, Christ is a sword); penetrated the carnal mind, impaled Him completely, and the two minds became one mind under the dominion of Christ. That is the crucifixion of Christ. I can give you Scriptures on that in the back of the Book, "Mind, Hell and Death." You have to pray about it but I can give you Scriptures on it. That is the crucifixion of Christ.

Then Jesus of Nazareth was crucified, it is not the same thing. When Jesus of Nazareth was crucified, this new creature, the beginning of the creation of God that came into existence, when the Mind of Christ became one new man with the carnal mind because He killed the carnal mind. That crucifixion killed the carnal mind. That new man, called Christ Jesus rose out of the carcass of Jesus of Nazareth, and the carcass was dead, and the eagle ascended. Jesus was glorified.

QUESTION: The carcass you mean?

PASTOR VITALE: The carcass is a dead body. Now, this physical body, which is in the form of an animal is in the image of the carnal mind. When the carnal mind was pierced, impaled, joined to the Mind of Christ and died, the physical body was sustained by the new man, Christ Jesus. Did you understand that when you get spiritual foundation, (this body is a carcass, when the Spirit leaves it, it is like a sack that just collapses; you understand that.) Because the carnal mind that Jesus inherited from His mother was crucified, impaled by being joined to the Mind of Christ that He received from His Father; when that spiritual man left the body, the body became a carcass. A carcass is a body that has no life in it. The eagle ascended and what was left was the dead carcass. You have to pray about it. The Lord will give it to you. It is difficult. It is very difficult but the Lord will help you.

PASTOR VITALE: Is your question about this subject? Is your question about this subject?

QUESTION: As you were coming into your Godly knowledge, how did your relationship with your Pastor change or develop?

PASTOR VITALE: I think that I did not tell him. When it first happened I told you I was really concerned that I had a spiritual problem. Talking about my Pastor; one day we had a visiting Minister in the church, and I went up because I was so sick in those days, I always went up to every altar call, and I was slain in the Spirit. As I was completely out, as I opened my eyes, my Pastor was leaning over me with a word of knowledge, and he was saying, "That is right, you got it, it is right." Something like that, that completely witnessed to me, that the Lord was speaking through my own Pastor but I never actually told him about it. The truth of the matter of what happened with my Pastor, is that he lost it. I was raised up in a very anointed church, and the man went down. Praise God.

PASTOR VITALE: There is someone over there?

QUESTION: Concerning the metaphor of putting Humpty Dumpty back together and Jesus. I want you to just elaborate on that?

PASTOR VITALE: I was not really talking about Jesus; I was talking about Adam. Jesus is the last Adam, the quickening Spirit who can never die again, but the first Adam; he was a soul man and He died. The first Adam was given righteousness that he did not earn for himself. When Jehovah put him in the Garden He said, "I give you righteousness, just obey my law, and you will not be subject to sin." When the first Adam sinned, (you see Adam was a supernatural man; I just pray that God could help you all if you can see this.) He was a supernatural man, and when he fell he broke into many spiritual pieces, and each one of those spiritual pieces took on the flesh, and became the many members of humanity. We are all descendants of the one spiritual man, Adam. We are being gathered back together into one body again, in the image of Jesus Christ. That is why we are called, the Body of Christ. Did I answer your question?

QUESTION: So, when you mean he fell, you mean like, when he disobeyed God in eating of the tree that he was not supposed to?

PASTOR VITALE: Yes, yes, He broke into many spiritual pieces, if you can hear that. We are not even half a man. We are all fragments of the one spiritual man.

QUESTION: Good evening. What is the relationship between meditation and divine intervention?

PASTOR VITALE: What do you mean by meditation?

QUESTION: When you go in a quiet place in secret and you ask for deliverance or guidance; how does that relate to divine intervention? Is it one and the same or is it different from one another?

PASTOR VITALE: Divine intervention; I am not sure what you mean by divine intervention. Do you mean divine guidance because to intervene there has to be something that you are intervening with. What do you mean by divine intervention? Intervention in your life to help you?

COMMENT: Yes.

PASTOR VITALE: Well, God is so creative. There is an infinite number of ways that He can intervene in your life. Meditation of the type that you described is making yourself available to God; that can always be a good thing. I do not see any problem with that being a way to hear from Him. Is that what you are asking me? Yes. You just have to be careful that you do not get into the occult meditation, which tells you to empty out your mind, and wait for some spirit to roll along and talk to you, you know because you will get it. It is being taught in the church. Just empty yourself out. Jesus will talk to you. What is the foundation behind that. Well, there is only one God, and there is no Satan. Do you not know that God cannot be divided; that is just a mess; that red freak with a tail. They are teaching it. As Christians, we meditate on the word; that is our point of contact with the Father. We never just sit there, and empty our mind out and say, "Well, Lord, what have you got to say with me today." Although I do that sometimes but you really have to be in a special place to do that. Your best bet is to go to the Lord with a question.

I have that relationship with the Lord right now but it is not likely that I would say, "Well, Lord teach me." No, I pick up my book or I pick up a work or something that I am working on, and I will look at it, and I will ask a question. You see, the Lord wants you to ask questions. If you want to develop intimacy with God, start asking Him questions, and they do not have to be scriptural questions. Ask Him what you should wear today; ask Him what He thinks about everything that is happening to your life. Ask Him what He thinks about that conversation that you just had with your husband or your wife or your father or that job that you just did, that you thought that you did a great job. Say, "Lord, do you think I did a great job too.

Invite Him into your life; make Him your intimate partner, and that is how you invite divine intervention into your life. I guess the Lord just answered you better than I did because, in case you did not know it, the Lord just corrected me. My answer to you was, "Well that sounds okay to me, you know, if you want God to intervene in your life, that you can meet Him in meditation, but the Lord just corrected me; did you hear that? If you want intimacy with God, invite Him into your life and ask His opinion on every aspect of your life. He is waiting for you.

PASTOR VITALE: Anybody else?

QUESTION: Could you tell me what is the meaning of triple darkness in the Bible. Triple darkness mentioned in the Bible.

PASTOR VITALE: Triple darkness, you have got me, where did you read that?

COMMENT: It is in there.

PASTOR VITALE: I do not know, but off hand I will tell you that triple darkness is referring to the three major aspects of darkness, which is Satan and Leviathan and Cain. See, the darkness (everything is divided). The spiritual world is divided in the same manner, (if you know anything at all about science,) everything that is here is made of atoms. Trillions and trillions of atoms and molecules. The same or something similar to that exists in the Spirit, and we start out with a unity, and we start to sub-divide, and the three major sub-divisions of the darkness, which is the Serpent. The darkness is the Serpent, divides down into Satan, which is the spirit that rules, and Leviathan is the pride of man. Leviathan is basically the carnal mind; Satan is the spirit, in the carnal mind. Satan is the unconscious part of the carnal mind. Leviathan, which is the pride of man is the subconscious part of the mind, and the conscious part of the mind, I believe to be Cain. You see, Cain and Abel still exist. We are all manifestations of Cain and Abel. Who are Cain and Abel? Cain and Abel are the mortal beings that fell out after the immortal Adam died, so we are all manifestations of Cain and Abel. I believe, off the top of my head, that those three levels of darkness are the three aspects of the carnal mind. Did I answer your question?

QUESTION: I was just wondering why did God love David so much?
 

PASTOR VITALE: Oh, because David had the Mind of Christ. That is what that means. God loves this one and hates that one. God does not hate you like a man hates you. What that means is the one that has the heart or the Mind of God. The way the Scripture expresses that reality, is to say that God loves you because their intimacy is created when the Mind of God is formed in you, an intimacy is created with God, and that intimacy is expressed as, God loved him. Another person who does not have the Mind of God but is under the influence of the Holy Spirit or someone who had faith in God but does not have the Mind of God, it is not the same thing you see. The Scripture does not say, "God loved him." The same principle with Jesus and John. You know, John, the one that Jesus loved; he was always laying on His breast. Do you really think that they were walking around like Siamese twins with John laying on His breast? No, they were not. They had a Spirit tie.

The average people today; we have soul ties. We love with our emotions. We are bound with our emotions, but as you mature in Christ, you will be developing Spirit ties. I have relationships with people that are based upon my experience with Jesus Christ. When I get together with them, I default to talking just the way I am talking to you. This is my life this is how I talk; if I can find someone who will listen to me; this is my life, see. This is what I talk about. I have a Spirit tie with that person, but not everybody can bear it, so I have to come down, and I have to meet people, and members of my family on the soul level because they cannot come up where I am, so I have to come down to where they are. That is all that, that means. When the Scripture says, God loved David or Jesus loved John, it means that they had a Spirit tie as opposed to an emotional tie, which is a soul tie. Did I answer your question?

QUESTION: I will make it a two part question. You said that we are not supposed to look like this. Then you also said that we are like Serpents but we are made in the image and likeness of Christ Jesus?

PASTOR VITALE: The problem there is that the Scripture frequently has taught as if it is already accomplished when it is a promise. We are not in the image and likeness of Christ Jesus. If we were, we would not die, we would not have the problems that we have. We have a sin nature which is in the image of the Serpent, and that is the lie. The promise is that we will be in the image and the likeness of Christ Jesus. The image of the spiritual being; image refers to nature. Now, if we have the nature of Christ Jesus, we would never sin because Christ Jesus is incapable of sin, and the likeness means, to be in the form of something.

Let me talk to you about the carnal mind first. We can say we are in the likeness of God because we are made from the substance of God. You see, the Serpent stole the substance of the creation, and reformed it in her image, in her nature. The fact that we are made of the substance of God is our very potential to be restored to the image of God, which is His nature. Did I answer your question? You see, it is a lie. We are not in the image of God. God does not do the things we do.

I never really finished my point that I started out with. I am telling you very bluntly there is no marriage or giving of marriage in Heaven. God does not have sex with His body. Jesus was a great eunuch. Now, this is the hardest thing for people to swallow, but I am telling you there is no marriage or giving in marriage in Heaven.

When you become a supernatural giant, all of the energy that you have, that you were born with, plus the additional energy that is given to you from Christ Jesus, will be manifest in your mind. There will not be anything down below. Now, that is not a bad thing before you get up and run out. Listen, that is not a bad thing because at the time that, that happens to you, you will be married to Christ Jesus with an intensity of pleasure that comes through this union of the combination of Spirit and mind, that it will far surpass anything you could experience in human marriage. That is the truth. I am telling you the truth. Everything of this world is an inferior counterfeit of what exists in the Heavens. It just seems impossible to some people.

Get married again, and this person said to me. Well, what would you say if God did not have another husband for you. My response was, "Do not even talk about it." Be quiet. Well, God did not have another husband for me; He had something else for me. You just need to know that God really loves you, and He would not do anything that would hurt you. Although you may be uncomfortable for a season, the end of everything that He does for you, will be far better than anything that you could have in this world. Do not waste your energy worrying about it. Just serve God and be at peace. If you are married, stay with your wife, stay with your husband, and enjoy. If you are not married, if you want to ask for a husband or a wife, ask. If you get it, good, if you do not get it; is that not what Paul said, "Be content with whatever you have but do not worry about it. Do not let that influence you, really. Anybody else?

QUESTION: Yes, I wanted to know as you grew more intimate with your relationship with God, how does your relationship with your friends change, if so? With your close personal friends and family members who are possibly non-believers of our word, as intimate with God

PASTOR VITALE: As they fell away, most of them fell away, most of them yes. It is a hard walk. I will not lie to you. It is a tough walk but you could do it, and it is worth it. You see, in order to live a life in the Spirit, which I live, you have to continuously crush your carnal mind. The way I express it, is that I went into a spiritual convent, and I did not go out of the house sometimes for days at a time, bringing forth this doctrine. I did not know what I was doing; I did not know that I was bringing forth the Doctrine of Christ. I was just really some poor pitiful person that was dying. I was physically dying. I had a child that I did not know how I was going to raise her. If I was dead, I did not know what was going to happen to her. I was overcome with witchcraft. My life was just horrendous, and every time I cried out to God, He put me in the books. I did not even know what was happening to me. I did not know I was being raised up to be in the Ministry. I was so sick that the thought of me being in the Ministry was not even a thought.

Then one day (I told you the church I went to; the man fell unfortunately; that was really a great church; I learned a lot there, and I started going around to other churches, and they were just dead. I was going home one Sunday and I said, "Lord, is not there anywhere with a message of substance." He said to me, "Will you do it." I said, "Me." No. Then He came back to me again, a month or two later, and He said, "Will you do it." I said, "Lord, I am so sick, I barely make it from day to day." I live all the way out in Long Island; I was working in mid town Manhattan at the time, traveling two hours there to work, and two hours back, half dead. I was half dead. I said, "How could You even ask me to make a commitment to anybody to be in any one place once a week." The answer was silence, so I said, "Okay." I said, "I will try." I will try, and here I am; 15 Years later. (Congregation clapping)

I lost a lot of friends. Not that many people rejected me because of what I believe. Most of the friends I lost; you want to know why? Because of envy; they could not bear it. (Pastor xxxxxx That's true) They would never do what I did. They would never be locked up in a house, sometimes for 4 or 5 days at a time, bringing forth a teaching or bringing forth a book. Working all day, sleeping for a few hours, getting up, sometimes not even getting dressed, working in my night clothes right through the day, because I could not stop until I finished it. There were times I even said to the Lord, "Boy, this is really compulsive behavior," and I am just sitting there just typing, saying, "Lord, if this is not you, please release me from Satan because this is crazy just going on for days." (Congregation laughter) I was chained to that typewriter, and then gave birth to a book. I gave birth to a baby, a spiritual baby.

I lost a lot of friends, but mostly because they could not bear what God was doing in my life. They went crazy, and when God raised up this Ministry, nobody wanted to believe it. I do not know that my friends left me so much as I left them because after much prayer; (see, they were all Pharisees,) and they would not admit that they were jealous but we would be fellow-shipping, and I could not say a word. Now, they would say to me, "What is new." Well, if I am staying in 5 or 6 days a week locked up in the house, bringing forth a book, what is new? You know the Ministry is new, what do I have to tell you? As soon as I would open up my mouth, they would change the subject. I would feel these daggers in my heart, you know. (Pastor xxxxxx yes) Pretty much that is why all my friends passed away. I passed away from them because after much prayer, I came to the conclusion that is not an edifying relationship. I hope I answered your question. It is a hard walk but it is worth it.
 

PASTOR VITALE: Anybody else? Last call. I guess that is it. Well, God bless you all.

Pastor xxxxxxx speaking

I have been blessed again. I give God the praise, and I thank God for Pastor Vitale. I think that, in fact, I was led of the spirit to just say that to you and let us consume what we have heard here tonight, and grow by it. I will not interject anything into what has happened. I think we all just pray but I have been tremendously blessed. I want to say that, and I want again to thank Pastor Vitale for the Holy Spirit's most excellent use of her again tonight, and I pray that you have been equally blessed. Praise God. Let us have our tithes and offerings and prepare to go home and just be blessed with the word.

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