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NEW YORK CONFERENCE
3rd Night
Pastor Vitale Preaching
One of Captain xxxxxxx observation. It is true that I told you that I am out of Deliverance, and it is true that there is great deliverance in this word. I distinguish between the two kinds of deliverance. I call the actual casting out of demons, "Old Order Deliverance." Now, that does not mean that it is old and no good any more. The casting out of demons is the mercy of the Lord to people who are still in their carnal mind, because you see the Mind of Christ is the ultimate deliverance. People who have faith in Jesus Christ, who are crying out for help; the casting out of demons is God's mercy to them.
You know when I was in this Deliverance Church, we were persecuted mercilessly by the other churches in the area, who claimed the Christian could not have a demon, which to me is very funny because deliverance saved my life. One of the arguments that they would give to us was, the Scripture says, "You shall be cleansed by the washing with the water of the word." At the time all that I knew was that I read the word, and studied the word day and night, and I was not getting cleansed, at least not to the degree that I was getting by having demons cast out of me. Today I understand that, that Scripture, "The washing with the water of the word," not the washing with the word, but the "Washing with the water of the word," that is a particular aspect of the word.
I am sure you remember that we said there are several, at least 4 levels of understanding this word. The deepest level, (I have it heard it called, the revealed word here,) I call it the mystery; it is all the same thing. Just semantics; you can use whatever word you want, as long as we are communicating. The water signifies the wisdom of God. We are truly cleansed by the washing with the water of the word, the wisdom of the word, not the surface of the word, not the parable, not the semantic preaching of the word, not the moralistic preaching of the word, but this wisdom that you are hearing tonight. (Pastor xxxxxx Yes) That will break the yoke, and that will cast demons out of you. That is the distinction; I call it, "New Order Deliverance," and it is up to the Lord as to how He wants to minister to you.
Right now, this minute today, if the Lord wanted me to cast out a demon of somebody I would do it, but He just has not done that in a long time. That ministry is absolutely valid, however if Christ can be formed in you, and start to grow in you, there is a continuous cleansing, and a continuous expressing or pressing out of the aspects of the carnal mind. You know, that is all the demons are. They are thoughts. That is what they are. They are the evil thoughts that our mind produces, that take on a form. That is what they are.
What does casting out evil spirits do for you? It weakens the power of your sin nature. For example, let us say you have a problem fornicating. That inclination is in your old man; in your carnal mind; in your old nature. Every time you yield to that inclination, you produce a manifestation, that we will call a demon that takes on a visible form, (it is invisible to us,) but in other planes of consciousness, it takes on a visible form, and it cleaves unto you.
Well, here I go again with these words again that can be called occult. We do have an aura, brethren. We do have an aura. The Scripture does talk about it. It says that Peter's shadow; when Peter's shadow cast itself upon somebody they were healed. Now, I hope you all do not think it was that shadow that you see, when you walk out in the street, and the sun shines on you, and you see that black shadow. No, that is not the shadow. It was Peter's aura, you see, but, of course, we need to distinguish between the aura that comes from the old man, which is occult, and the aura of Christ.
There is a shadow of Christ, but I do not know any different word because if God does have a different word for these spiritual concepts, they are not in the King James Translation. I use the word, the only one that I know, which the occult people use also, and we have to be wise enough to recognize that the same word can be applied to both sides. We have an evil side, and we have a righteous side.
We do have an aura. This has been proven. The scientist in Russia did many scientific experiments about the aura. It is an energy field that emanates out from our body. It originates from the depth of our body; actually it is a spiritual genesis because the spiritual world, and the spiritual planes are inside of us, and they emanate out from us, and surround us; the energy field.
When we yield to an aspect of our evil inclination, and produce a demon which is a thought form, it takes up residence in our aura. Every time we yield to the sin, we produce another thought form or a demon until we form a pack or a tribe of demons that are supporting the original inclination to sin in that area. Then they all work together to tempt you to repeat, and repeat that sin. Every time you repeat it, the pack gets stronger, until sometimes you are overtaken by it, and at this point you do not even want to do it anymore, and you cannot stop; whatever it is, whatever your sin is. All of these demons; they dwell in your aura.
You know, I use to ask the Lord, "Where are they coming out from?" They are coming out from your aura, and your aura is outside of you, and it is also inside of you. Our spiritual being is inside of us, and outside of us, but the root of our spiritual being is inside, and it vibrates out. The stronger your spirit is, the greater the distance that your spiritual being vibrates out. There are all kinds of spiritual beings living in your aura. There are demons, and there are angels. It is just words, brethren. Every time we think with Christ, we produce a thought form. You want to call them angels, call them angels. They dwell in your aura too, and they are influencing you too to do instincts.
We are the product of this mind, that is what we are. You know, years ago even before I came to the Lord I use to look at people, and I could just look at somebody's face, and I could see if they were an intellectual person. I could just look at their face and see it; if they were educated, if they were intelligent, and I could never understand it, until the Lord educated me in this area. I now know it is the Spirit on you. It actually shows out on your face, for people who have eyes to see; what we are; visibly the expression of what we are.
There is Old Order Deliverance, and there is New Order Deliverance. Once you graduate to the Mind of Christ; once the Mind of Christ is grafted to you, (because it starts as a seed, and it has to grow; you have to feed it to grow) you have to feed it the Doctrine of Christ, which is what I call this level of teaching, that the Lord has sent me to share with you. I call it the Doctrine of Christ. It is the spiritual message of the Scripture. That is the food of the Christ in you. Once that Christ starts vibrating in you; see, every time you listen to me or you listen to a tape or read a book, which is arising out of the Doctrine of Christ, it will feed the Christ in you, and that Christ, when it seeds, vibrates. Every activity of Spirit is a vibration, and that vibration flows through your being, and forces the uncleanness out. You cannot do it with the letter of the word. The letter of the word is good; don't anybody misunderstand me; that is where you start.
I know there are preachers that have thrown this book out. I have actually known preachers that have thrown it out. They say, "we do not need it any more." That is a very dangerous thing to do because this is the point of contact. This is the Mercy Seat where the Lord meets us or where the Lord meets the angel in us. It is what stabilizes us, and defends us against the false doctrine of the carnal mind, which is really the Serpent's doctrine. See, we are told in the Book of Revelation, that Jezebel is feeding false doctrine to the church.
Now, someone had a dream last night about; actually it was about a woman's husband, and there was a woman who was not his wife, feeding him food, so what does that mean? My opinion is that this sister was just tapping into what is happening in the spiritual plane. That dream was a word of knowledge, which is indicating that Jezebel is in the church. She is in the church, and she is feeding the husband of the church. Christ is the husband of the church. Christ in you is the husband of your soul. He is going to marry your soul. He is going to marry your soul, and your soul is your personality, and He is being fed by another woman, and He is being fed poisonous food or weak food, so that He cannot be a man.
You see, we all need a savior. Just another way of saying that is that we need a husband. The whole soul realm which is what we are, is female, and we are subject to any entity in the spiritual plane, good or evil. What does that mean? It means we do not stand a chance against him. It is the same relationship as the animals in the wild, compared to mankind who has the intelligence to lay traps, and who has weapons to shoot them. They do not stand a chance. We do not stand a chance against the entities in the spiritual planes. That is why we need a savior.
If you think you have got it all together because you happen to be, (and hear me out because I know a lot of people here problems, material problems, poverty, and whatever,) but if you have your little piece of paradise, I am telling you this country has a little piece of paradise, compared to the way other people are living.) No matter how bad you have it, in other countries things are a lot worse for most of the people. If you think you have it good, or that you have your little piece of paradise, and that you are okay, do not be deceived. You are not okay. You have your little piece of paradise because you are living in a country that is under the protection of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you happen to serve Him to the whatever measure you serve Him. You do not have to serve Him very much for Him to bless you because He really loves His people.
The bottom line; what am I telling you? We are really the defenseless woman of literature. The literature of the antiquity. You know when that knight in shining armor comes out, and fights the dragon to save the damsel? That is really our condition. Do not be deceived by the illusion of your prosperity.
You know, I use to hear that this world was an illusion, and it use to get me very angry. I would hear it from Hindu sources. What do you mean this world is an illusion? Here it is; right here. Do not tell me it is an illusion. Do not tell me the sick body is an illusion. Do not tell me I am imagining this disease or this weakness, but I did not understand what the word, illusion meant. Illusion means, temporary. That is all that it means. My disease was an illusion because I stand before you today; healthy; so it was an illusion.
Our prosperity is an illusion. Do not be deceived. Satan is about to break forth onto this planet with a viciousness, and a furiousness, the likes of which humanity has never seen. Her intention is to possess every member of humanity. We are all spiritual children. We have not grown up yet.
You see, the human race is maturing. We are maturing individually, and the human race is maturing, and the human race today is at the age of spiritual marriage. This is the Serpent's world. We are formed in her image; so she is coming to take what is hers, but God sent His Son, and He is going to marry us first, Lord willing; He is going to marry us first.
I just wanted to clarify that about what I called Old Order and New Order Deliverance, and the washing with the water of the word. It is the washing with the wisdom of the word, and there is more than one aspect of the word. Praise the Lord.
I want to go over two issues that I talked about last night, and that is the crucifixion of Christ, being different than the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth. Also a related topic, that Jesus did not die in our place. This concept of Jesus not dying in our place; I deal with it in a Book called, "Not Without Blood." You see, the church world tells you that Jesus replaced the animal sacrifice. That is not true; I am convinced that is not true because if you believe that the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth replaced the animal sacrifice, then you have to believe the rest of the lie, that Jehovah is a blood thirsty God, and that He would not stop punishing us, and killing us until the blood of a righteous man was shed.
I declare to you that Jehovah is not a blood thirsty God. I declare to you that Jehovah is the God who says, "Obedience is better than sacrifice." He does not want your blood. In the Book of Isaiah, He says to Israel, "I am tired of your sacrifices, I am tired of them, that is not what I want from you. What I want from you; I want to see righteousness appear in you; that is what I want." I am tired of your good works. Of course, it is better than nothing but you cannot stop here. I want to see righteousness appear in you. I want to see you return to your first estate. I want to see you standing above the powers and principalities of this world. I want to see you victorious over every enemy of your soul. I want to see you return to immortality, and I want you to be my house. We are the body of the Christ.
If we have time I will get to explaining the relationship between the Christ and Jehovah, which is a big confusion to a lot of people. The crucifixion of the man, Jesus did not replace the animal sacrifice. How can I say that? Well, the sin offering was not crucified. The sin offering was boiled. If Jesus was really going to replace the sin offering, He would have to be boiled or roasted. You are all looking at me all shocked.
He had to be boiled or roasted to replace the animal sacrifice. There is no crucifixion of the animals. It is a lie. The crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth was for the purpose of this perfect spiritual man that dwelt within the physical man, Jesus of Nazareth. There was a perfect spiritual man, called Christ Jesus that dwelled within the physical man, Jesus of Nazareth. The crucifixion of the physical man or the Son of man as Jesus expressed it, was the death of death. These physical bodies are graves. They are graves that the spiritual man dwells in.
Do you remember what Jesus said to the Pharisees? He said, "All I see is dead man's bones. What does that mean; dead man's bones? He was rebuking the Pharisees, and He was saying, "You are supposed to be the landmark of God." People looking for God are supposed to be coming to you as to the church today to find the truth about God, and when they come to you, all they find is the bones of the dead Adam. You are dead. You are blind guides. You are destroying yourself, and you are destroying everybody that follows you. You are not alive. You have the potential to be alive; you have the potential to manifest life; you are supposed to be the example of God's goodness in the earth.
Do you know that the church is to be so powerful that people are supposed to be coming, and chaining themselves to the altar here, saying, "How do you get what you have; (Pastor xxxxxx That's right) pray for me please, that I should get it too, but they laughed at us. They say, "Oh, those holy rollers, those people with the tambourines, yes; walking around saying, "Praise Jesus," all the time; are they not fools? The majority of them are poverty stricken, and sick, and they are jumping around, and dancing, and saying, "Praise Jesus, hallelujah." We do not want them in our neighborhood. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right) That is what they say. That is what they say.
Israel was supposed to be what the church is supposed to be today. Israel was not the representation of God, and the church was not the representation of God, so Jesus came in and rebuked them. He said, "You are supposed to be a manifestation of the living Christ but you are a manifestation of the dead Adam." Will these bones live again? What does that mean? Are these bones going to live again? Everyone of you is a bone in the body of Christ. Are you going to live again? My Bible says, "Yes." Hallelujah. My Bible says, "There is going to be great earthquake, and a great shaking, and the Christ is going to rise from underneath your carnal mind." That earthquake is going to happen in you. You are going to have some trials.
Jesus said, "This tribulation that is coming; no one has ever seen the likes of it, and no one will ever will." It is not a physical war. Now, there may be a physical war out there. Everything that happens in the spiritual, manifests ultimately in the natural. The reason that Jesus said, "No one has ever seen the tribulation like this before, and never will again," is because, since the fall of Adam, nothing like this has ever happened. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right)
Christ is being injected into you. The living God is being injected into the dead body, and when He is injected, He is injected into your lower parts. After Christ is grafted to you, He has to fight a warfare to rise within you. He has to rise to your Heart Center. In order to rise to your Heart Center, He has to wage a warfare against Satan.
Listen, Satan is the unconscious part of your carnal mind, and she has generated this physical body. The very blood in our veins is a manifestation of Satan. You see, you have to get a realistic concept who Satan is. Is not every disease known to man is in the blood? It is in the blood. The blood is dirty. The blood is dirty. Is that God's blood? It is dirty. That is the physical manifestation of Satan. She has generated this material solid world. That is the tribulation. That is what never happened before, and who knows how long this fallen creation has existed.
There are Christians using up all of their energy trying to prove that the creation was formed in six twenty-four hour days. Brethren, how naive.
There is no definition in the Scripture at all as to how long the Scriptural day is. I believe the creation was formed in six days, and the seventh day is coming but maybe each day has been a couple of billion years but the creation, (which is still being formed, by the way,) is not over yet. You see, the original image that God perceived us to be must come to pass, and we are not it. Unless you are it but I am not it. It is an expanding creation. It started from a point. The creation started from a point, and it started to expand outward. If you could see it as a "V" the first day is down here; the second day is up here; the third day is up here; the fourth day is up here, so the days are not even of equal time. I do not know how old the earth is. We could be billions of years old. My opinion is, and I am certainly not an expert in this area, that when the smoke clears that the spiritual aspect of the Scripture will agree with the scientists very closely. (Pastor xxxxxx Yes)
This is the tribulation. Christ is entering into Satan's territory, and taking back the children. I am telling you, this story is better than any science fiction movie, I have ever seen. The children were kidnapped. The children of God; that is us. We were kidnapped, and we were re-programmed into the Serpent's image, and it may seem that God forgot about us because it has been years and years, and years. That is just because we are carnal.
You know, sometimes I watch Star Trek, and I learn some very interesting things. Quantum mechanics today is bringing forth such very interesting truth. I saw one Star Trek Episode where Captain Picard went into a coma. He was in a coma for one half hour, in which time, he ascended into another spiritual plane, where he lived a whole life time. He got married; had children; became a grandfather, and died, and woke up, and he was just out for half an hour. That is our condition. It is not billions of years from God's perspective. It is just billions of years from our perspective. From God's perspective it is only 3 days. The kids are gone only 3 days. That is the truth.
He is moving very rapidly to get us back, and this is the plan. You see, He cannot wipe out Satan without killing us, and he has chosen to not kill us. He is injecting His righteous Son or the seed of His righteous Son into each and every one of the children. Each one of which is a bone in the spiritual body of Adam, and that seed is going to prosper. Genesis talks about the seed. The seed of the woman will bruise the seed of the Serpent, (I am sorry if I cannot remember; I am not a religious preacher. Sometimes I get my Scriptures mixed up because I have not memorized them properly but I have the Spirit of the word.) The seed of the Son is going to bruise the head of the Serpent, (that is it.) That is it; you have to get the understanding of it; sounds wonderful. I have known people that memorize Scriptures. You see, my memory is not what it should be because I was sick for so many years that it damaged my memory, which is just coming back now, so that is part of my problem but I will take what I have. I will take both if God wants to give it to me.
You have to know what it means. Christ is going to be injected into you. Going to graft to you just like in the body snatches. Going to grow up; going to start acquiring the energy that is in this natural body which Satan controls; is going to ascend into your Heart Center, which the Scripture calls, "Dry ground." Why is it called, "Dry ground?" Satan's symbol in the Scripture is the sea, so ground that is wet is ground that is possessed by Satan. Christ in you will ascend above that sea level to high ground, and start bombing down, and burning that carnal mind.
Christ is symbolized by an eagle. A flying fiery eagle who will fly out over the spiritual sea of your spiritual being, and start dropping fire brands on your carnal mind if you work with Him. You have to work with Him. That is the way the Lord set it up, and you cannot work with Him if you do not believe this message. You cannot believe the message if you do not hear it, so that is what the tribulation is.
You know, if you look up the word, tribulation in the Greek, what it really means is to drive down under. It is the driving down of the carnal mind under the Christ. That is the tribulation. That is the war that no one has ever experienced yet, and it will never happen again. Why will it never happen again? Because Jesus Christ will succeed. He will prevail. He will deliver this human life. It is going to happen. It does not look that way now to our carnal mind but it is going to happen, so there will never be another tribulation again. Adam will never fall again.
You know, one of the first things the Lord showed me, when I first really got into the Scripture; I was reading in the New Testament where Jesus is telling the Pharisees about the re-generation. I looked at that word, re-generation, and it just started vibrating at me right in my Bible. I said, "Lord, what is that, re-generation; what does that mean?" Because I did not know I was dead. You see, we are all dead. We have been cut off from the source of life. You see, this was the source of the initial seduction.
In the Hebrew, where Elohim says to Adam, "If you eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, you shall surely die." That Hebrew word means, you shall die to your immortality. It does not mean, you shall cease to exist. You always have to ask when someone says something to you. You have to ask them to define their words.
Elohim said to Adam, "You shall die to your immortality." He never told him, you will cease to exist. The Serpent talked to the woman and said, "Oh, you will not die if you eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil; you will not cease to exist." That was true. That was true. You are ceased to exist. What Elohim said was true, and what the Serpent said was true.
Adam died to his immortality, and he did not cease to exist. We are it. We are the residue of that glorious Son of God, called Adam. Jesus, the Christ is the first begotten of the dead. He is the first human being to ascend out of this carcass or this grave that we live in. He was the first one born out of death back into His original state, and even higher. He is the first begotten of the dead. That means there will be more. Amen? (Pastor xxxxxx That's right)
This is the promise, brethren. It is not walking on streets of gold, and living in mansions, and hanging out all day. No one that is in God, hangs out all day. There is no retirement, and there is no sick leave until you literally cannot get up off the bed. Trust me, there is no sick leave. Trust me. As long as your body can move, you are working.
He was the first begotten of the dead. He was the first human being, born of a woman, mortal in His inception, who overcame death, and escaped from the grave of this physical body. That excites me. Now, that really excites me.
I heard a preacher once preach that he was going to get his own mansion, and eat Italian food all day up in Heaven. (Congregation laughter) He was an Italian preacher. That is what I heard. What Jesus of Nazareth did; (He did have one up on us, I have to admit that,) because He did not have a natural father. He was born of a seed of a human woman, and the seed of God. Mary received the seed of God. Our experience is not exactly like His, as I told you already. Jesus was the only one who was actually born from the seed of God. We are all being re-generated. We are born again by a cutting from the one who has already overcome, and therefore the glorified Jesus Christ is our Father. We are the 2nd Generation of Christ, and this is the spiritual blood that joins us.
Jesus of Nazareth who became the Christ by overcoming His carnal mind by the Spirit of Holiness that He was born with, which Spirit of Holiness was strengthened by John, the Baptist in that water baptism. The symbol of the Scripture is that a dove came down. Well, the Scripture says, "The Holy Spirit came down upon Jesus." You know, the truth of the matter is that Elijah; the Spirit of Elijah was in both John and Jesus. The Spirit of Elijah, this great awesome Spirit of Elijah manifested in two human beings.
The root of the life of God was in the man, Jesus. Remember I talked to you about the root and the branch of the tree? The branch of the tree was in John, the Baptist. John the Baptist had, what we could liken to, a tremendous outpouring of someone who is gifted with the Holy Spirit that has a Miraculous Healing Ministry, and as I told you, that will not endure. That kind of manifestation of spiritual power that heals, and delivers, and does miracles, it will not endure if it is not connected to the root.
Let me review that to you. What is the root? The root is that spiritual vine that comes down, (it really does not come down, it really comes from within) from the glorified Jesus Christ, who is anchored in the eternal realm. We must be re-connected to the eternal realm, and as Jesus Christ is our life line, He is anchored in the eternal realm. He will never die again. He cannot fall down as the first Adam fell down.
He is now sprinkling His blood upon humanity, and a drop of His blood is in each of us, and Christ starts growing up in each of us but we are still disconnected from immortality. Immortality is growing in me but we are separate. It is as if I would swallow a balloon. You know how that people smuggle drugs; they fill up the balloon, and they swallow it. He is in me but He is in no condition to impart immortality to me. Christ Jesus is in me; He has some power.
The Holy Spirit is in you. The Holy Spirit has some power. These are levels, degrees, grades of power. If the Lord Jesus Christ was to pour out the fullness of His power upon us in our fallen condition, it would kill us. Everything comes in grades, and as we arise to the level of the power that is imparted to us, we get to the next level of power. Then we rise up to that level of power, and He gives us the next level of power, and we keep rising, gradually.
As Christ Jesus matures in us, of course, there are blessings, just as there are blessings with the Holy Spirit, but we are still dying. Everybody is still dying as far as I know. We have to be reconnected to the root. Christ out here is like the flower of the plant. If you have cut flowers, and you put them in water, they only last for a season. We have to get reconnected to the root, so that is blossoming of the power of God.
This church was raised up, and it was such a glorious, marvelous church, and there was such power in it. All kinds of healing, and deliverance, and excitement; every day, every time we came to church, and then it all died, and I was devastated. I went before the Lord, and I cried, and I moaned, and I prayed, and I said, "Lord, I cannot live without that." He said to me, "Everything that was out there is now inside of you." I did not understand that, and I did not feel good. You see, all that, that was outside of me made me feel good. It took years for that, what got inside of me, which was the seed, the cutting of Jesus Christ to manifest, and to mature, and to start to comfort me in a completely different way than the outpouring of the Holy Ghost. If you can hear what I am saying.
That glory that comes down in a collective meeting like this, that you feel good, you get your needs met, and then you go home, and you are sad again. When it gets inside of you, and it wells up from within you, you take it with you wherever you go. Now, of course, you can have both. You can come into the house of God, and stomp, and dance, and sing, and have your double, or your triple portions. That is fine too, but we need to get it inside of us. It has to come from within us wherever we go.
This Christ is our miracle worker. This Christ is the one that is going to save us when we are cornered by a mother. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right) He is the one that is going to rise up, and manifest, and show Himself, and make that thief run scared. You have to get Him inside of you. Christ operates on that level that the Holy Spirit does not operate on. Is the Holy Spirit bad? No. The Holy Spirit is good but you must grow; you must go on.
God wants you to go on. He wants you to be completely, and absolutely protected. He wants you to be absolutely invulnerable. Invulnerable to the point that when you have acquired the wisdom, through instruction, and submission to an elder, you will actually be able to intervene, and defend others. That really takes a lot of training. Let me say something about that. Now, the church is filled with pride. If you think that you know as much as the person in the pulpit, you have to be mistaken because God would never put someone in the pulpit to teach you that is on the same level as you. I have to back up Captain xxxxxx on this because I have the same thing. I have had the same issues with people actually confronting me, and challenging me, and telling me that I am wrong. That is the spirit of pride. You must believe that God is speaking to the one in charge, and you must yield your members. I talked about this last night.
The true submission is not just in behavior. It is in attitude. You should come to church to be taught, not to show how much you know. I am still trying to explain to you exactly what Jesus did. When that spiritual man inside of the physical body of Jesus of Nazareth, which was called the son of man; (remember Jesus said, "I am the son of man, and He said, "I am the Son of God." They were all one until the crucifixion, when the son of man separated from the Son of God. The son of man ascended, and became transferred into a spiritualized, glorified form, that enabled Him to sprinkle upon all of humanity, and touch, and grow in all of you.
That was the purpose of the crucifixion; to separate the son of man from the Son of God for the purpose of spiritual reproduction. Can you imagine if God the Father did for each and every human being on the face of the earth what He did for Jesus. It would take forever. This is a speedy process, believe it or not. We do not think it is speedy but from God's point of view this is speeding up the whole process. Of what? Of what process? Getting the kids back. The kids were kidnaped. That is why we have to be redeemed. What does that mean? We are being purchased back. There is a ransom to be paid. Heaven was robbed, and we are what was robbed. We are very valuable.
Jesus is sacrificed, in that, He died to this soul realm. He died to everything, (not that there was any great thing in the carnal mind) but that is what He did. He gave up His carnal mind. He gave up the potential to get married. He gave up the potential to have children. He gave up His natural family. He gave up everything. His whole life was given over to God, even unto the death of the cross, and now that blood, that spiritual blood, (now, not the physical blood, not the blood that was in His veins.) That physical body even though it was indwelt by the Son of God, that physical body, (all of our physical bodies are a manifestation of the image of the Serpent,) the blood in His veins was not purified. It was nullified. The man, Jesus was living by the power and authority of the Christ within Him. He was not living because He had red blood in His veins because Satan, in the man, Jesus was completely nullified. It was the Christ within Him that was sustaining the life of the man of flesh.
When the Son of God separated from the son of man, He made a way for each and every one of us to enter into the tabernacle of God. What did He do that made a way for each and every one of us to enter into Heaven? He is sprinkling His blood on us, and Christ has to grow in each and every one of us. Christ is our passport. That is why He is marrying us.
In World War II, we sent troops over to Europe. A lot of servicemen came back with Japanese and German brides. They came right through the Immigration, right into this country. Come on in; you are married to an American. Come on in. That is how we are getting back into Heaven. That is why Jesus is marrying us because it is the only way we are going to get back up there, so that is what the crucifixion of the man, Jesus of Nazareth did for us. It did not replace the animal sacrifice. The animal still has to be sacrificed. We are the animal. We are the residue of righteous Adam after he died that we have been covered over with earth. We fell down into the mud. We have been completely covered over with earth, and we are in the Serpent's image, and we have a bestial nature. That bestial nature has to die.
The sacrifice that we go into Heaven with, is our own carnal mind. Jesus made the way. Jesus opened the door to the heavenly tabernacle for us by giving us His life. Our part is to lay hold of His life; to work with it; to destroy or to die to our carnal mind or our bestial nature, and those are the two sacrifices that we need to return to immortality. The first sacrifice is already done. Nobody can take it from you. Jesus did it for you. The tabernacle in Heaven is opened. You must come with a sacrifice, and the sacrifice is your bestial nature. I have told you the truth.
If you would like to study this or read it in print, if you want to go over it, the Book is called, "Not Without Blood." I think we brought that with us. If we out of copies, you can order them.
The crucifixion of Christ is different than the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth. Everything that happens in the natural has a spiritual counterpart. Now, the Son of God cannot die. Christ cannot die. If Christ is crucified, that means, whoever He is crucified to, dies. Christ was crucified. Christ, the spiritual man.
That war is just a preposition, the crucifixion of Christ. The King James translators in their wildest dreams, could not imagine that the Scripture should be translated, the crucifixion by Christ. That is the true translation. The carnal mind was crucified by Christ in the man, Jesus, as a result of the tribulation. Christ in the man, Jesus, forced that carnal mind that Jesus refused from the woman who bear Him, Mary; forced that carnal mind down under His authority, and penetrated him; pierced him; killed him dead, and of the twain, He made one new man. Of what twain? Of the two men; of the old man, and of the new man, He made one new glorious man, the creation of God. He was the beginning of the creation of God.
We are all supposed to have a similar experience. This is how we shall return to immortality. We must come with a sacrifice, and how do you sacrifice your bestial nature? You fall out of agreement with it. (Pastor xxxxxx Yes) You have to hear the teachings. You have to hear what is right; you have to hear what is the truth, and deny the opinions of your carnal mind.
See, when Paul said, "The woman must be silent in the church," he was saying, "The carnal mind must be silent in the church." He did not mean a physical woman. Obviously, look at me up here; listen to what is coming out of my mouth; it could not possibly have meant this physical woman.
See, what really happened at the very beginning of time there was a spiritual male and a spiritual female, and the spiritual female killed her husband, and ran away with the key. That is what happened. This word is incredible when you just put it in understandable terms. That is what happened. She killed her husband. She was like a black widow spider. She killed her husband, and she ran away with the kids. That does not mean that all physical women are evil. It means that all mortal men are evil because we are all the offspring of the Serpent. We are talking about spiritual sex here.
The Lord wants His kids back. You know, in this country, unfortunately it is so common that men do not want their children or that they do not take their responsibility for their children, and we have so many single mothers desperately trying to raise their children. Men overseas are very different; they want the kids. European men, Arabic men, African men; they want those kids. You cannot run away with their kids. If you want to leave, you go, they keep the kids. This condition with the men in this country is very perverse; it is very unnatural.
God, He wants His kids back, so He has raised Adam from the dead. The first Adam who fell, He raised him from the dead, and now, He is the last Adam, which means, He will never fall again in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ. Adam was raised from the dead in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ, and He will never fall again. Why? Because the Lord has designated Him as the last Adam, and He has come back for us, and He will have us, one way or another.
The crucifixion of Christ is the crucifixion of the carnal mind by Christ, the compression of the two minds, which compression kills the carnal mind, and gives birth to or results in the birth of a new creation or a renewed creation; the condition that the creation was in at the beginning. The creation was darkness and light from the beginning but the darkness was under the authority of the light. See, God created evil but He never ordained that the evil should do evil deeds.
You are going to find as you study this Doctrine of Christ, God is going to sharpen your minds. You have to start asking questions, and not just assuming simple answers. This is really going to sharpen you up. God created evil. Yes, He did. He never ordained evil deeds. Evil deeds began when the evil departed from under the authority of righteousness, and that is because of Adam's failure. Adam failed to control the evil which was a part of his nature. You see, the trials that we go through today in dealing with sin, are only one degree different than what Adam was going through. We must sin because we do not sin in the similitude of Adam. Adam had the ability to remain sinless, and he was tricked.
We are already fallen, and do not have the strength to not sin. To not sin in our mind. We have the strength to not sin behaviorally but we continue to die because the unconscious part of our mind is, every second of every day, generating sinful thoughts. Some of them vibrate through into our conscious mind eventually, and some of them do not because we are so defense against certain sins, that they never even get passed our subconscious mind but we are still guilty, and we are still paying the price for them because this evil is being worked through us even thought it remains in the unconscious part of the mind. That is why we die.
Does anybody have any question about the difference between the crucifixion of Christ, and the crucifixion of the man, Jesus, and that the sacrifice that we must take with us to enter into Holiness, is the head of our old man. Are there any questions on this particular subject?
Once again I do have a study on the crucifixion of Christ at the end of the Book called, "Mind, Hell and Death." The book that Captain xxxxxx was talking about on Wednesday night about Adam's failure; the name of that book is, "Adam's Failure or God's Plan," because it is a well known doctrine in the church. Someone, I think it was Brother, xxxxxx approached me last night, after the meeting, saying, "Is that true, what they teach in the church; that we have to fall so that Jesus could save us or some other ridiculous nonsense that they talk about; it is being preached. That this world has to come into existence; people had to get raped, killed, murdered, tortured, bludgeoned, hacked to pieces so that Jesus can be glorified by saving us. Give me a break. Give me a break. This is the doctrine of ignorant men. You have to know where to stop.
God has told me so much, and now there is silence, and I do not know the answer but the pride of man cannot admit that he does not know the answer, so he makes it up. His mind makes it up. He wants to write a book or sell his books or something or other, and look like a big shot; I do not know what gets into people but they say the craziest things, like; if you are sick, and you are not healed, you have no faith. How ridiculous; you do not have the power to heal them; what are you blaming the sick for? Because you have no power.
When Peter walked down the street, his shadow fell on people. They were healed from leprosy, they were convicted of sin. There is no strength in the pulpit today, and even the words that I preach, is not all that it is designated to be. I am waiting for an outpouring from God. You see, this word that is coming forth now, yes it is breaking your yoke but it is only half a word. The miracles have to come also. The outward miracles have to come also. Because why? Because you people can sit here, and listen to this but the average person cannot sit here, and listen to this, so the miracles have to come also but this outpouring of miracles is going to be different than the miracles of the Holy Ghost.
The miracles of the Holy Ghost were without repentance. Well, what does that mean? I answered an altar call, and you say, "I repent Jesus," and I got healed. That is a general repentance; just a general repentance, as opposed to a specific repentance. The Holy Ghost is the mercy of God to people that have no knowledge but you have become the Jews. You have too much knowledge to be healed by the Holy Ghost, if you can hear that.
I have had a lot of people come to me, and say, "Why am I not healed, I see people healed of aides; I see people get up out of wheel chairs; I am serving God for years and years, and years, and I am not healed, why not?"
People that walk through the door of the church for the first time, and they are healed. Why would God not heal me? Because spiritually you are a Jew. What does that mean? The Lord is not drawing you with signs and wonders. The only sign you are going to have is three days, and three nights in the belly of the whale. You have the opportunity to have Christ rise up in you, and to separate from this body of death, and your healing is in direct proportion to the growth in the maturation of Christ in you.
So I just struggle and labor to overcome. The healing that I have experienced is the direct outgrowth of my change of nature, and nobody can take this healing from me because I have ascended to a spectacular level that demands, and requires the level of health that I have.
People that are healed by the Holy Ghost, many of them lose their healing. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right) Many of them. Sometimes the same disease comes back, and sometimes they get another disease. I know someone who was healed of cancer; she got diabetes. Well, what does that mean? Is God a fool? No, no, God is not a fool. The healings of the Holy Ghost are to the ignorant. You are supposed to acquire that healing, and be grateful to God, and start panting after Him; reading your Bible, pursuing Him, growing. He has given your health back so that you can pursue Him. Jesus said, "I healed 10 lepers, only one turned and said, "Thank you." Glory to God. All of the other 9 got another disease.
So if you are here tonight, and you are sick, and you have been hoping for a healing for a long time please be encouraged. To me understanding is everything. Understanding just completely sets me free. As the Christ matures in you, He will bring healing to your body, as well as healing to your mind. See, the healing of the Holy Ghost does not heal your mind. It does not convict you of sin; it is just an absolute mercy asking for nothing back. I must admit the people in the church that are healed by the Holy Ghost and get another disease, I felt sorry for them because they have not been taught properly. Maybe if the man in the pulpit said to them, "Well, now you are healed, you better get on the stick, and start pursuing Jesus before you get a worse disease." Maybe they would be chasing after God, and they would not get a worse disease.
You see the 5 Fold Ministry that is in the pulpit today; it is not the true 5 Fold Ministry; they are not the true 5 Fold Ministry. Not to condemn them; they are in Christ because something has to be in Christ but the real thing has not come forth yet. The Scriptural expression is, the genuine article. The genuine article has not appeared yet. The true 5 Fold Ministry is coming out of the existing church, and the true 5 Fold Ministry is a group of people that Christ is ministering through. It is not a carnally minded man under the influence of the Holy Ghost.
That is what is coming forth now. That is what you have here. That is the true definition of apostleship. It does not make you are an apostle if you start a church, and turn it over to somebody else. That is not the definition of an apostle. An apostle is an ambassador for God. An apostle is a man; when I say man, I mean a physical man or a woman; because when you are manifesting the Christ, you are spiritually male, so I say man. An apostle is a man whose nature is manifesting the Christ. A man who is sent by Christ; a man whose is preaching by Christ. Of course, if you want to push it and I could say that you are an apostle if you are ministering to a group of people like this because you are all churches. We are the church. The people are the church. The church is not a building; I am sure you have been taught that.
If you are teaching by the indwelling Christ, and you are feeding the Christ in the people, you are raising up churches; if you want to get technical like that. All that we could do is our part. The resistance in the church against the truth is mind boggling awesome, but the Lord is moving forth anyway.
I think that we dealt with that issue of Christ, and Christ crucified, and Heaven; I cannot get back into Heaven. What is Heaven? Jesus was in Heaven and earth at the same time. What does that mean? It means that He was in the earth, and He was in complete and continuous, and uninterrupted communion with the Father, so He was in Heaven.
Now, I am not saying that there is no existence after the death of this body; I am not saying that because I believe there is. I really would rather not get into that because I have so many questions myself in that area, but I do know, that we are called to manifest the Christ in the flesh in the earth. That the whole earth is going to be reconciled.
Now, you tell people they are not Christians this, and they perceive it as a very aggressive, threatening word because if they are of another religion, they do not want to hear that, but it is the truth anyhow. In my opinion we are not supposed to be telling this to people, going up to them and saying, "If you are not a Christian, you are going to Hell or something like that."
Once the Lord comes to you with this word, the primary thrust of your effort; should be to minister to the Christ within you, by studying this word; by learning to submit; by making a decision to submit, and that does not mean; thinking that you know more than the Pastor does, and not saying it because now, maybe I convicted you that it is wrong to say to the Pastor, "I am as smart as you are."
I had a woman do this to me recently. She was walking around, just keeping it inside of her own heart, thinking that she knew so much more than me, and I had a real problem. I had a spiritual problem, and I started praying, "Lord, what is going on here, what is wrong with me." It was manifesting as a weakness; a spiritual weakness in my heart. It is the only way I could describe it, and I was praying every day, "Lord, where is this weakness coming from."
You need to know that when you lift up your head in pride against an authority like that, you are just as well taking a knife, and cutting their heart out. You need to know that you are doing this because you do not think you are doing any harm. This woman would have never harmed me consciously. She would have never harmed me but she would not believe that her thought life was killing me.
Jesus said to the Pharisees, "Why are trying to kill me." They said, "Are you crazy, man, are you crazy, you have a devil, not trying to kill you." The next Scripture or a couple of Scriptures down, it says, "And the Pharisees set out to kill Him.
Your thought life, your thought life exists in power in another spiritual plane, and this spiritual plane is as real; the invisible spiritual planes are as real, if not more real, than this spiritual plane. If your thoughts are wrong, you are doing damage to that person in particular, a person that has spiritual authority because it is not easy manifesting spiritual authority, especially when God is taking that man up because initially, as we ascend in Christ, the way I see it is that, if you can imagine it physically happening, you levitate off the ground; maybe a couple of inches, and it is not your natural state of being. God just has you up there, and then as you move in that level, and as you take the victory in that level, the earth rises up under you, and that level becomes yours, and you become stabilized in that level, and nobody can knock you off of it. (Pastor xxxxxx That's right)
During that time that you are levitated, so to speak, you can be knocked down. See, you are vulnerable. It is like a really crazy situation in the church, but the people that the Lord has raised up to teach you, and to save your life, are attacked mercilessly by the minds of the people that we are sent to save. Now, you need to hear this because all of you would never knowingly do that, so you have to hear the truth that you are doing it, or to whatever degree you are doing it, you need to ask the Lord, "What am I doing, and how much am I involved in this." It is just the way it is; you know that saying, "That is just the way it is, man." Why do I have to be in by 9 o'clock, mom, because that is the way it is. That is just the way it is.
The congregation, or the mind of congregation, or the carnal mind of the congregation is at war with the Christ of the man that is in the pulpit. Now, unless you make a decision to not be a part of that warfare that is trying to kill him, unless you make a conscious decision to move to the other side of the line, you are a part of the body that is trying to knock him down out of his pulpit. Why do you think so many preachers fail? Do you ever hear of the clergymen of the Gurus, or the Hindu clergymen or the Buddhist clergymen, or the Moslem clergymen, do you hear about them running away with the organist, and molesting the young girls. You do not hear about it. It is in the church. What does that mean? Is the congregation responsible because the Pastor ran away with the organist. Well, not really; yes and no. You see, when your mind wages a war against a man; what it does is it strengthens his weaknesses. You cannot kill Christ. You cannot kill Christ in the man.
This collective carnal mind in a congregation; it is under an authority. Satan is orchestrating the whole thing; goes right for the man's belly; right for his weak part; whatever that weak point is, and strengthens it. Some men make it, and some men do not. The only way you are going to overcome that, is to be a person who exercises the weapon of confession. You know, confession is one of the most powerful weapons you can use. It is one of the most powerful weapons that there is.
Lord, if you do not help me, I am done. You have to look at your heart, look at your mind; you cannot be in denial; you have to see what is cooking in you, and try to resist it, and say, "Lord, no, no, this thing is too strong for me; I am telling You it is there; that sin is there, and if You do not help me, I am going to be history."
Every person who thinks they can overcome in their own strength, will fail. You will fail because Satan is stronger than you are. Yes, she is. She is stronger than you are. That is why you need a Savior, but to be saved by the Savior, you have to submit to the Savior, and at this point, the Savior is talking to you from the person up here. If you think you are smarter than the mouth piece of the Savior, you are going to find out that you are not. By hook or by crook, one way or the other; it may take you a long time to figure it out, and by the time you figure it out it might be too late.
I do not really believe that when this physical body dies, that you either go to a mansion in Heaven or to a place where there you are tormented, like Dante's Infernal, you know with red freaks with pitch forks, and all that. I think it is outrageous to teach people that a loving God, who sent His Son to save us; whose character is righteousness; one of the qualities of which is fairness, and decency, and honor would punish someone internally forever without end because in the insanity of their carnal mind, they rejected Him.
It is not reasonable to give eternal punishment or to give an infinite punishment to a finite sin. Because you rejected Him, He is going to burn you in Hell forever? It does not make sense. You have to think about this stuff, brethren; it does not make sense. An infinite punishment for a finite sin coming from a crazy person; because we are all crazy; we are all insane; we are spiritually insane; every last one of us. Any body that could reject this, so great a salvation, you have to be spiritually insane. Now, even in this country, which I believe has the greatest legal system with all of its failures; and certainly in this community you know about, its failures. Even in this country if you are insane, they do not execute you. They just put you in a Mental Institution. You want to believe that our great, Almighty God; all powerful, omniscient, omnipresent, the greatest God of all the gods, that He is going to punish some fly because that is what we are compared to Him; a mosquito. He is going to punish us infinitely with burning flames of torture because we rejected Him. Give me a break. Give me a break, brethren.
Now, there is a sowing and a reaping, and there is hellish conditions in this world, and I do not have it straight in my head about what happened after death. I do not. I have some ideas, and I am still learning but I simply, absolutely, reject this teaching; that the God that I serve will burn an innocent person in torment with no end forever and ever with no hope of restoration. I do not believe it.
What I know about this God is that He is righteous. That what a man sows, so he shall reap, and this great God has the power to make us righteous, so that the law loses its power over us. That is what my Bible teaches, that He has given us the Mind of Christ to make us righteous because the law is not for a righteous man. You see, the end of the law is death. If you are a righteous man, you do not need the law because you cannot die. You cannot kill a righteous man. If this God has the power to make us righteous, why in the world would He torture us forever because we rejected Him? Come on, brethren, think, think; it is pagan religion. That is pagan religion. It is not the Scripture.
The church is filled with the doctrines of pagan religion; the Egyptian Mystery Religion, that Babylonian Mystery Religion. You do a study; I am not recommending that you do a study but if you were to do a study on pagan religion, it is all in there. There is nothing new under the sun. In the church today, what is new under the sun is that Jesus Christ came, and made a way for fallen mankind under the dominion and authority of the Serpent, in the person of Satan, to become righteous again. That is what is new under the sun, and that, that is our deliverance from Hell, and death. The restoration to righteousness.
You wonder why there is no power in the church? What kind of a conversion do you get by threatening people with Hell and damnation? Even if they come, it is a false conversion because it comes out of fear. That is not our God. He is a great God. His mercy endures forever. His righteousness is unknowable. It is beyond our ability to even comprehend His goodness. He is a righteous God, and He is a Holy God, and He will not let you sin forever.
All this punishment come out of a righteous motive. That is why we can say that God does evil perfectly because we are talking about motives. When man does evil to you; and I mentioned this, either Wednesday or Thursday, when man does evil to you, it is out of a motive that will end in your destruction. It comes out of jealously or some other evil. Almost everything comes out of jealously, and jealously wants to destroy you but when God does evil to you, His motive is to restore you to righteousness. It can be likened to your disciplining your children.
You see, the truth of the matter is, that in Satan's world; if she were God forever; she is god of this world right now; she is prince of the power of the air right now; she is the one that punishes you forever. This is a world that dies from generation to generation. The curses go from generation to generation. It is Satan who punishes you forever. Jesus does not punish you forever. Jehovah does not punish you forever, He sent Jesus. You have been lied to, you have been lied to.
I actually had somebody challenge me. You know there are a lot of people, that the Captain preaches a lot, a lot from this community are going to Islam but there are a lot of Christians that are just departing from Christianity, and they do not believe in anything. I saw some European interviewed on the TV in Europe. They interviewed some people in Switzerland. Switzerland was such a Christian country that their flag has a cross on it. That is their national flag, and they stopped several people, and said, "What do you think about God, or some such question." The answer was, "Oh, I do not believe in Him, I do not believe in Him, I do not believe He is," and you could see the prosperity on the person. Again just look at his face, "You could see the prosperity; you could see that he was educated; he had a knapsack on; he was hiking or doing whatever activity he was enjoying; he was under the illusion that he was safe, and that he did not need God.
Why is the church losing hundreds of thousands of people because the message is infantile. As people become smarter and educated, they do not believe this junk. Then you have a group of people in the church that love Jesus. They really love Jesus, and they are clinging to this junk because they do not believe it is junk. You think it is the word, and by faith in the Spirit of Jesus Christ, you are clinging to the lie because that is all you have. The people are leaving the church in droves because they just do not believe this stuff, cause it does not make sense.
Now, I remember when I first came to the Lord, I thought everybody in this Bible was good, and then one day; I do not know if I told you this or not; one day I looked, and I said, "Why did this Abraham turn his wife over to Pharaoh." What kind of a man was that? Turning his wife over to Pharaoh, and said, "Have a ball." Something is not right here. Then the Levite Priest has an idol. Then another Levite Priest is stealing his idol. This is confusion in this book here, and it was a big thing for me, that to realize that everyone in this book is not good. The church has to face the fact that you have been sold a story that is a lie.
You see, the Holy Spirit came in to give salvation to the Gentiles, and the Holy spirit is just the spiritual aspect of the Lord. Christ is the teacher, the Holy Spirit does not teach. The Holy Spirit went to the heathen, to the totally uneducated people. They were not equipped to understand that this was a woman. They would not be sitting here for 5 minutes but for some reason, spiritual things; they are just so expanded. It is 2000 years; I do not know, maybe the Lord tried to bring this message forth; maybe He tried with 50 other people to bring this message forth, and they did not make it. I do not really know but I am the only one that I know that is preaching this today, but I hope you are going to be preaching this. I hope a lot more people are going to be preaching this.
The Holy Spirit came in first with the power of God. It did not come in with the word of God, and then it came in with this carnal translation, which is a good thing but then men that stood up as teachers; and I am not saying that the Holy Spirit did not stand them up as teachers. I do not know about teachers but I am not saying that the Holy Spirit did not put them in the pulpit to gather the people together to encourage them to teach them the message of the cross; that God sent His Son, and Jesus was crucified, and now we have salvation. They did not stop there. They went by their carnal mind digging into the word, and they came forth with the doctrines of men, which line up, unbelievably, with the pagan doctrine, especially the doctrine of the Egyptian Mystery Religion.
Now, the church is so under the control of this 5 Fold Ministry, I am telling you that, with very few exceptions, these men would rather die than admit that they were wrong. Is that not right? They would rather die than admit they were wrong; they would rather you die than admit that they were wrong, so we have a problem in the church. They are wrong, and there is no life in this message. God is so merciful, so merciful that this first level of salvation; if you want to look at it this way; this first grade that comes in, (the Holy Spirit); it can help you get off drugs; it can help you get off alcohol; it can help you settle down in life but there is more to this than that.
We are the Saviors of the world; if you can hear that without your pride getting into this. This is only true of you when you are living under the complete direction of Christ. We are Saviors that are coming forth from Mt. Zion. The whole world is waiting for us. The whole world is on tip toe waiting for the manifestation of the Sons of God, and the Sons of God are waiting to die so they can go to Heaven. The world is waiting for us to come to break the curses on creation, and restore all of creation to the Lord.
We start with a small group that are willing to believe the truth, for there is no power without truth in Christ. Truth in righteousness they all go together. You could be living a moral life, you see. You could be living a moral life but if you are believing this false doctrine, there is no power in your mind. There is no power in the lie. There is no power. Today there are people who are ascended in the occult; they are more powerful. Every once in a while; although I think we do not see it so much any more, you will find a preacher who is very anointed with, what I call, an Imputed Anointing. God has given him great power but He has loaned him that power; the man has not earned that power. He does not have that power because he is righteous. God has just given it to him because the Lord wants to minister to the people.
You hear about men like that going into third world countries, and having duels with witch doctors, and winning. The only way you could win a war with some worker of the occult, if that is the war that God wants you to engage in. In other words, the one testimony that comes to my mind is a Missionary that was sent; I think it was to the Philippines, and he did everything that God said, and he opened up a tent, he opened up the meetings; nobody came. To make the story short, it turned out that the town witch doctor; that they were just terrified of the town witch doctor, and nobody would come out because everybody that would come out would die.
The Lord spoke to this Missionary, and He told him to challenge the witch doctor, and the Missionary said, "Are you sure that is You, Lord," but he did, and he broke the power of the witch doctor, and the whole town came out and were converted.
God does do miracles like that, in the Mission Field today. It is just this country that is dying. Why is the church in this country dying when God is working mightily in the Mission Field? Because this country is passed the Mission Field. The church is retarded. The word is not coming in here with Holy Spirit miracles in this country when they are supposed to be growing up into Christ, and being the Saviors of the world.
This is the work that the church does; great works in the containers of food and clothing, and medicine, and doctors to third world countries; that is marvelous but brethren, that is temporary. The Sons of God are supposed to be doing that by the word of their mouth. Do you know the problems of the Missionaries today? They spend thousands of dollars to send a container over to a third world country, and the dictatorship in that country steals most of the material. That is all your money that you are donating to Missions. It is only there until something better comes, and what is better, is the word of the mouth of the righteous company of men that are manifesting the nature of the glorified Christ. That is us.
I heard somebody of the Fellowship a couple of years ago, before 9/11, and everybody was running around, and saying, "Oh, the revival is coming, the revival is coming, when is the revival coming." Before I could even stop to think, the Lord just rose up in me and said, "There is no revival coming here, there is judgment coming here, and the whole group went, aha, she has no faith in God, (whispering.) Three months later, 9/11.
There is a revival coming here, but it is not of the same nature as the Holy Ghost revival that came, at the beginning of the Nineteenth Century. That kind of revival is for people who do not know anything about God. The revival that is coming here is coming in the form of judgment.
Now, all that you have been listening to for these three days is bringing judgment on you but it is corrective judgment. You should be getting visions, and dreams, and being convicted of your sins. When you say, "Amen Lord, I repent," it is going to change you. If you deny it, you will have some kind of experience. I am not going to scare you, you are going to have some kind of experience that is going to bring you to repentance. You can go the easy way or you can go the hard way, because you are all marked, you know, there is no place to run.
You sat here for three nights, you are all marked, you are finished. (Congregation laughter) All of you, you are all finished. You are not running anywhere. It is a good mark. Everybody is afraid of the mark of the beast. I have the mark of God, see. He is going to do it. Nobody wants to come except maybe us crazy people here but the majority of the church does not want to come. They are all running in the opposite direction but He is going to do it. He is going to gather together a group of people that are willing to pay the price, and we are going to experience the glory of breaking the bondage, of not only here in xxxx, but the whole country, and the whole world. It is going to happen.
I do not seem to have anything else to say. I will take some questions tonight. Are there any questions? No questions. You are all questioned out.
Well, it has been a real blessing ministering to you all. I wish you all very, very great things in your life. Just please keep in mind, I made a joke out of this but you really are marked, and the Lord is going to be coming to you, and showing you things that you are doing wrong, so please confess them, repent, and change, and grow up, and be all that you are going to be, and turn this community around. You see, it first starts in your own life. Whatever is wrong in your life has to turn around. Then the problems in this church has to turn around. Then the problems in the community has to turn around.
Let me just tell you something about the problems in this church, which are no different than the problems in any other church. There are some of you here; I understand from what Captain xxxxxxx says, who have a different mind set than he has, so there is a warfare going on in this church, which is no different in any other church. I am not here to condemn you. I am just going to tell you what is going to happen.
When Adam sinned; I told you
this too, God did not curse Adam. Jehovah just came and explained to him what
the consequences of his action were going to be, so I am going to explain to you
what the consequences of your actions will be. Those of you that are opposing
the God ordained head of this Ministry, the consequences of your actions, if you
do not turn around will be, that you are going to be out of this church. The
Lord is bringing this church together. He has a body that is going to be of one
mind, and one accord because the power of God does not manifest with division in
the church. As God brings you to that place, and I cannot tell you when, but I
will tell you that it is coming.
Tape 2
As punishment goes, you need to understand this. That God loves you. He loves you. You cannot imagine the degree to which He loves you but He has a plan, and His plan is to deliver the whole creation. That plan is more important; or has a higher priority than you, as an individual do. If you want to come along with the plan, if you want to come along with the program, which means, you have to follow the leader, you are welcome. Not only are you welcome but whatever you can contribute is greatly appreciated. I think I can speak for the Captain. If you are pulling in another direction, what you are doing is breaking the anointing that hovers over this church, and you are going to have to be removed, not as a punishment; you have got to hear this. God is not a punishing God. He is realistic. He is going to break the bondages on this creation, and if you want to be a part of it, He would want you to be a part of it but if you are pulling in another direction, you simply have got to go because you are interfering with the greater good. It is as simple as that.
Everyone comes to the Lord thinking that they are all so important. We are kings kids, and we are the bottom line. Well, we are not. We are mosquitoes, that the Lord has had mercy on. You are not important. Nobody is irreplaceable. Everybody can be replaced. Everybody. The only one that cannot be replaced is Christ. Why do you not get together, and follow the leader because it is a tremendous opportunity to lead a worth while life, and also to sow some good seed that will bless your family, and your future generations, and for your own sake in this world.
Try to understand that it is your pride that is killing you, and it is your pride that is separating you, and it is your pride that is removing you, and it is your pride that is damaging God's great plan for all humanity, and you, therefore, must be removed from the group. This goes on in every church. You are no different than anybody else but everybody does not get this explanation.
I heard another preacher say once; every once in a while he would see a lot of strife and stress, and things going wrong in the church, and he would just start to pray. The next thing he would know, the piano player was gone, and this one was gone, and that one was gone. God just cleansed the church. See, that is the sowing and reaping judgment because every Minister does not have the ability to explain what I just explained to you. They do not understand it or they do not have the ability to explain it.
This is the characteristic of Christ. He wants you to have a choice. He wants you to choose. He does not want you to be under the sowing and reaping judgment, where you just get swept out, and you say, "Hey what happened to me." He wants you to have a choice, so everyone of you that is hearing what I have to say. You can never say, that God swept you away without giving you a chance. You can never say, "I did not know, I did not know, if I had only known, I really would have wanted to be a part of what that church is marching into." You can never say that, and this is a part of God's righteousness; education. He is in the education business, so I sure hope that all of you stand up, and fly straight because the Lord needs you. He needs you.
He needs everyone of us but do not be deceived. If you do not follow after the plan that he sets out, He is going leave you, I am telling you. I am telling you, He is going to leave you. I do not care if you have been in the church for 30 years; I do not care if you cast out demons; I do not care if you heal the sick; I do not care if you just gave a $5000 or a $20,000 donation; I do not care if you give a $1,000,000 donation here, if you are breaking the cohesiveness of the anointing in this church; you will be blessed if you get one warning, you are going to be out on your tail. You cannot buy God. You cannot buy God, and you cannot buy any Minister that is truly ministering under His authority. This is a very serious business.
The forces in the world today are seeking to wipe out Christianity. The warfare is waging. Be a part of the winning team. I would like to see you all make it. May you all make it, all of you. God bless you. (Congregation applauding)
Pastor xxxxxx speaking
Just one more time to thank God for His mercy. Once more please. (Congregation applauding at length) And, if indeed, you have been delivered, and you are thinking that you have been delivered from yourself; from your pride; from your foolishness, which is quite pervasive; if you realize that it has taken place, just one time, give God praise. (Congregation applauding again)
To draw an opportunity for us to learn and experience over these last three nights, have been absolutely just great, and we give God praise for it. We do thank the Lord that He has allowed, at this time in our personal journey, as a congregation, and as a people, especially with the Mission that God has assigned unto us, to have the understanding to anchor our faith in the work that God has called us to, and it is just a blessing. We praise God. Thank you Pastor Vitale for all of which you have brought to us tonight. Thank you so very, very much. It has been extremely challenging but it is because of the greatness of what God has called us to do, and to be, that we have been privileged.
Thank God that you were able to sit through it. I was making the comment to someone earlier today, that Pastor Vitale, the reason why people's eyes did not cross, that they will run when they heard you from night to night, because we are ready to serve the Lord, at the level at which He would have us to serve. We have seen a large number of people; thousands of people, and it is quite pathetic and heart breaking also get delivered from drugs. We have actually seen people throw down their drug instruments right here on the pulpit; I do not want it any more and get delivered from it; alcoholism, but never grow beyond that. They just never, ever, move or ascend as you have so aptly described to us in the Lord Jesus Christ. And really that is the state of the church as well. It has not ascended to let Christ grow up in them the way He should be able to grow. Just they are quite carnal, and only dealing at the superficial level of salvation, but there is so much more. There is absolutely so much more, and so we thank you for the teaching. We thank you for the challenges as well.
And your last warning was quite stern to the house. Praise God, but the house will go on, for Christ will go on. The Lord Jesus Christ will not be defeated. He will go on, and would it not be wonderful if we became, indeed as stated, as Saviors of the world, that this church would deal with its own problems, get its own act together, and then change the community, and thus change the world. Would not that be absolutely awesome to have that happen.
I think that in the last remarks, something about what to dwell on them; the issue of pride and jealousy. Last night I did not interject myself into your statements; hesitant to do so tonight, but I suppose, as a form of thanksgiving, I wish to just say a word, since there were no questions; the issue of jealousy. I have often thought about that, as being, perhaps the worse of all possible evils that can take place, that men can do. Pride obviously, is the first understanding that we have about evil arriving; it was pride that lifted up Satan but jealousy is in pride, and to some degree the 5 Fold Ministry instilled that by who has the greatest miracle; who does this, who has the greatest gift, and how loud can you talk in tongues; how fervently can you dance. It is a matter of jealousies and competitions; it is almost like a sport happening in churches.
The thing that we want to make mention of is this, is that the Lord will prevail. He absolutely will, and I believe that He has established these three nights because of the call that it has upon our lives to help us to understand that we should go forward, and if you are not a part of the winning team, you will not stay with the house with the group.
I pray that this church has less problems than some other ones. I would like to think; I supposed every Pastor thinks the church is good. But it is true, if you are not a part of the winning team, and if there is another mind set, but praise God, thank God that it has been 3 great nights, 3 great days. It is the beginning of a large number of things. I see the opportunity to minister in ways in which we have not been able to minister before, and I also see the opportunity for people to grow in ways which was not present, and the light that has been brought will just quickly identify, and lighten our paths as well. We give the Lord praise.
How long have you been traveling as an Evangelist or a Pastor?
Pastor Vitale: Since 1991
Pastor xxxxxx: 91?
Pastor Vitale: Evangelist in 91. I started my Ministry in 87
Pastor xxxxxx: You started your Ministry in 97? In 87, and you travel very much here in the New York area?
Pastor Vitale: Not that much.
Pastor xxxxxx: And Pt. Jefferson Station, Long Island is where you
Pastor Vitale: I go down south also, in South Carolina.
Pastor xxxxxx: Well, praise the Lord. Glad to have had you in this community. Praise God
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